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Jayne

Jayne Report 31 Jul 2013 21:32

I have Edward Thomas c1791 Denbigh Clwyd Wales and Mary Roberts c1791 also Denbigh Clwyd Wales.
Their son was John Thomas c1821 Llangollen and Mary Unknown c.1822 Llangollen - which I have on my tree
Is there any way to find the ancestors of Edward Thomas and Mary by any chance..
Many thanks
Jayne


Mike *

Mike * Report 31 Jul 2013 21:51

Not unusual names but found this ( married at aged 13 ???)


Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish


Name: Edward Thomas
Spouse: Mary Roberts
Marriage: 1804 - Oswestry

Jayne

Jayne Report 31 Jul 2013 21:55

Hi Mike,
Thanks for your reply, I do have Edward Thomas and Mary Roberts and I think that this might be a bit of a minefield trying to sort it out, but I am keeping my fingers crossed that you can find Edward's father .
Thank you
Jayne

Mike *

Mike * Report 31 Jul 2013 21:58

For our reference ...

Is this son John in 1861 ?


John Thomas 40 - Llangollen, Denbighshire
Mary Thomas 40
William Thomas 19
Marry A Thomas 16
Johnathan Thomas 14
Henry Thomas 11
Sarah Thomas 6
George Thomas 4
Samuel Cornforth 70 - visitor

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Jul 2013 21:58

https://familysearch.org/

BTW

Would two people born c1791 have married in 1804?

Mike *

Mike * Report 31 Jul 2013 22:00

If your info is correct you can discount the above.
Looks like this is the couples marriage and John's father is not Edward

John Thomas
Father's Name:John Thomas
Spouse's Name:Mary Cornforth
Spouse's Father's Name:Samuel Cornforth
Marriage Date:25 Dec 1840
Marriage Place:Sedgley, Staffordshire, England

Jayne

Jayne Report 31 Jul 2013 22:00

Hi Mike,
Thanks for the reply - and yes, this is the family I researched, but would really love to find out the father of Edward and mother Mary Roberts 1791.
Cheers
Jayne

Mike *

Mike * Report 31 Jul 2013 22:03

Where did you get Edward and Mary's names and DOB from ?
The family you identified in 1861 are not linked to Edward

Jayne

Jayne Report 31 Jul 2013 22:10

Hi again Mike,
Your post appears that this last reply as it isn't as it seems - sorry ... They came over to the West Midlands, but this isn't what I was looking for as I would like to find the father of Edward and Mary and any other ancestors that can be found.
Cheers,
Jayne

Jayne

Jayne Report 31 Jul 2013 22:34

Hi again Mike,
I did find the info for Edward and Mary and will send for a certificate to see if I can find out if it is ok, if someone can help?
Thank you for your time
Jayne

Mike *

Mike * Report 31 Jul 2013 23:05

I don't understand.

You are looking for the ancestors of Edward and Mary Thomas but according to the marriage of John to Mary Cornforth, John's father was John not Edward

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Aug 2013 07:49

Baptism (Find My Past)
Forenames:John
Surname:Thomas
Baptism Year:1820
Baptism Month:Dec
Baptism Day:03
Place:Llangollen
County:Denbighshire
Birth Year:-
Birth Month:-
Birth Day:-
Fathers Forenames:Edward (Hostler)
Mothers Forenames:Mary
Page:59
Record source:Denbigh baptisms - Transcripts
Data provider:Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

(can see above, but no idea how, or from whom you have worked back to him!)


Baptism
County Staffordshire
Place Tipton
Church St. Martin
RegisterNumber 241
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 01 Dec 1819
Forename Mary
Sex F
FatherForename Samuel
MotherForename Sarah
FatherSurname CORNFORTH
MotherSurname
Abode New Row
FatherOccupation Slitter

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(from above, if Mary)

Chris :)

(if you check 'Search All Member Trees' under 'Search', top right of page, could be other Members sharing these)


edits (looking at 1804 Pallots image, W, by side of both names)