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Is there anyone on this site that might be able to help me find my grandmother. She seems to have vanished in 1909 after my father and his brother were sent to live with his uncles family. I think that she might have died or became ill so that she could not look after the children

I have looked for her death but have had no joy. Is it possible that there might be someone out there that may have my grandmother in their tree or knowledge of what happened to her.

My grandfather George Charles Moss abandoned her and went to live with an Eliza Maryanne Brock. This family I have found but no one knows what happened to her.


Thank you, in advance, for any help you can give
Beryl Sidney (nee Moss)
This is my last resort to try and find what happened to her.

an you tell us when and where she was born please?
Jan

OK!

Births Mar 1869 (>99%)
FISHER Emma Agnes Greenwich 1d 792

Just for ref:

1901 England Census
Name: Emma A Moss
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George C Moss
Gender: Female
Where born: Clerkenwell, London, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St John North Brixton
County/Island: London

Registration District: Lambeth
Sub-registration District: Brixton

George C Moss 36
Emma A Moss 32
Emma A Moss 15
Daisy G Moss 13
George C Moss 11
Alice V Moss 9
Rose A Moss 8
Frederick S Moss 5

MD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Emma Moss
Name: Emma Moss
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1904
Age at Death: 35
Registration District: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 242
Could this be her death
George remarried in 1905

George states he has been married 6 years on the 1911 census......


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: MOSS, George Charles
Address: 29 Hinton Road Herne Hill S E

MOSS, George Charles Head Married M 45 1866 Clerk London VIEW
MOSS, Eliza Maryann Wife Married6 years F 25 1886 London VIEW
MOSS, Fredrick Samuel Son Single M 15 1896 Baker Assistents London VIEW
BROCK, Alfred James Son M 6 1905 London VIEW
MOSS, Daisy Gertude Daughter F 4 1907 London VIEW
MOSS, Willie George Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 London VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 2081
Reference: RG14PN2081 RG78PN72 RD25 SD4 ED32 SN101
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub District: Brixton
Enumeration District: 32
Parish: Lambeth
Address: 29 Hinton Road Herne Hill S E
County: London

I can't see a marriage though.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Eliza M A Brock Name: Eliza M A Brock
Spouse Surname: Crowdy
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913
Registration District: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1332
Records on Page: Name
Eliza M A Brock
Henry T Crowdy


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Eliza M A Crowdy Name: Eliza M A Crowdy
Spouse Name: Henry Gage
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1947
Registration District: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 3093



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Eliza M A Gage Name: Eliza M A Gage
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Mar 1969
Age at Death: 83
Registration District: Havering
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 22

Wondering if this could be her death

Name: Emma Moss
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1904
Age at Death: 35
Registration District: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 242

Birth Emma Agnes Fisher 28 Dec 1868 in Greenwich Middlesex London

Already posted by Sylvia CC.

Ankela.......

Have you checked out the peterbrock67 tree on Ancestry?

Found these snippets of info

Eliza Mary Ann Brock
Birth 10 Apr 1881 in Bethnal Green Middlesex London
Death 1937 Lambeth Middlesex London

Another birth/baptism record

Name: Eliza Mary Ann Brock
Record Type: Baptism
Birth: 28 May 1885
Baptism Date: 21 Jun 1885
Father's Name: James Brock
Mother's Name: Matilda Brock
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers


George C Moss
Death 1956 Morden Surrey England

Eliza in the 1911 census was born abt 1886.........

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Eliza Mary Ann Brock Name: Eliza Mary Ann Brock
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 21 Jun 1885
Born: 21st May 1885
Father's Name: James Brock
Mother's Name: Matilda Brock
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

Ah.......i see you have edited.

Birth Registration
Name:George Charles Moss
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1865
Registration District: Clerkenwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 611


Found the marriage of Emma Agnes Fisher & George Charles Moss
9 Mar 1885 - 12 Charles Street, Holborn (Islington)

Sorry PricklyHolly - I was reading some docs in another tree about the family so very intriguing - like my own great gran - wasn't mindful of what you were posting

Hello Beryl and welcome to the Community boards.


If you click on Search above and then, in the dropdown menu, click on Search All Members trees and add the names you are looking for, it will show you if anyone on this site has them in their tree. If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner.




As Beryl is a new poster, I will send a friendly message on how to return to her thread. :-)

Hi Everyone.

First 'Thank you' all for replying. Unfortunately I have for the last 5 years been trying to trace Emma Agnes Moss/Death. She disappeared after the birth of my father Frederick Austin Moss her last child in 1909 so the lady in 1904 was not her. I have been through all your findings during the last five years and that is why I put out a message to see if anyone knew of her or had her in their Family Tree

Yes I have contacted Peter Brock and the family is my father's family and have had the pleasure of meeting Tony Brock and his wife when they came to England in 2011. Tony's father William Moss/Brock was my father's Step-brother

Thank you all once again for your replies and will still keep searching for Emma Agnes Moss/Death.

Beryl