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28 Jul 2013 15:19 |
My grandfather David Robson had an uncle of this name who departed for Adelaide S Australia in 1926 with his wife Olivia nee Fenwick and family Frank 1911 S Shields, Constance Fenwick 1915 Morpeth, Phyllis 1919 Easington and Gertrude 1921 Easington. James died suddenly in 1932 and was buried in St Marys Cemetery Adelaide. So were Olivia in 1963 and Gertrude in 1998.
Does anyone know of this family either in England or Australia or what became of the other 3 children?
My grandfather also had a younger brother (1906 Merton Surrey) of the same name as well as his grandfather (1852 Newcastle upon Tyne, a joiner living in Ferryhill Durham before his death). David and his brother lived in Dover Kent for some years. Their parents were John Robson 1876 NUT(a joiner setting up a company John Robson (Dover )Ltd) and Isabella Millar 1876 Maryport Cumbria. John's brother Thomas Ernest also left Ferryhill for Dover working as a miner.
Anybody out there have any information re these people?
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28 Jul 2013 15:37 |
Hi
You seem to have quite a lot of information already. Can you tell us what in particular you are looking for?
This is the family going out, but Im thinking you already have this?
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name:Frank Robson
Gender:Male
Age:14
Birth Date:abt 1912
Departure Date:5 Aug 1926
Port of Departure:London, England
Destination Port:Adelaide, Australia
Ship Name:Barrabool
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Barrabool' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line:Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co Official Number:145424 Master:Captain H R Rhodes
Father James is listed as a plumber
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28 Jul 2013 15:43 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: ROBSON, Olivia Address: 30 Mozart St So Shields
ROBSON, James Clennet Head Married M 25 1886 Blacksmith's Striker Durham Sunderland VIEW ROBSON, Olivia Wife Married1 years F 28 1883 Durham Percy Main VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 30296 Reference: RG14PN30296 RG78PN1745A RD556 SD1 ED37 SN157 Registration District: South Shields Sub District: South Shields Enumeration District: 37 Parish: South Shields Address: 30 Mozart St So Shields County: Durham
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28 Jul 2013 15:53 |
This is Isabella 1911 ...I dont have access to the Census to check details...
Name: Isabella Robson Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Gender: Female Age: 35 Birthplace: Maryport, Cumberland Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Dover Sub-District: Hougham Parish: Hougham Without County: Kent
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28 Jul 2013 15:57 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: ROBSON, Isabella Address: Railway Cottage Dover Colliery Hougham Near Dover ROBSON, John Head Married M 35 1876 Colliery Joiner Above Ground Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland VIEW ROBSON, Isabella Wife Married15 years F 35 1876 Maryport Cumberland VIEW ROBSON, David Son M 13 1898 Scholar So Shields Durham VIEW ROBSON, Sarah Daughter F 10 1901 Scholar S Shields Durham VIEW ROBSON, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1904 Scholar Jarrow on Tyne Durham VIEW ROBSON, James Son M 5 1906 Scholar Merton Surrey VIEW ROBSON, Albert Son M 4 1907 Tooting London VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 4621 Reference: RG14PN4621 RG78PN194 RD65 SD3 ED3 SN103 Registration District: Dover Sub District: Hougham Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Hougham Without Address: Railway Cottage Dover Colliery Hougham Near Dover County: Kent (5 children born and living)
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PricklyHolly
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28 Jul 2013 16:00 |
Hi Marion
As Gins said..........exactly what information are you looking for?
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28 Jul 2013 16:43 |
Thank you all for the information, some of which I've dug up but bits I hadn't.
Can anyone elucidate on James Clennet Robson 'Blacksmith's striker' on Pricklyholly's reply?
I was wondering why James went to Australia, whether he was a plumber out there and whether his children had any descendants. Gertrude seems to have died a spinster. I did find one newspaper article relating to his death . I also wondered if anyone knows anything about the family in England in Dover (I have picked up bits of information from the Dover Express newspaper) or the north. Ferryhill, Rothbury, Westoe & Monkwearmouth Shore are some of the places I know the family of James Clennet 1852 lived in. My mother is the only living descendent of the family that I know and she knows so very little about the family.
Thanks Marion
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Potty
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28 Jul 2013 17:12 |
There is this probate record:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about James Clennet Robson
Name:James Clennet Robson Probate Date:9 Nov 1939 Death Date:12 Sep 1939 Death Place:Durham, England Registry:Durham, England James Clennett Robson of 8 West Street Ferryhill village county Durham did 12th September 1939 Probate 9th November 1939 to John Robson builder and contractor. Effects £335 0s 4d
which would probably be this death:
Deaths Sep 1939 (>99%) Robson James C 87 Durham S. E. 10a 135 making this man b1852, too old to the one in the 1911 census.
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Potty
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28 Jul 2013 17:15 |
Birth for the 1852 James:
Name: James Clennet Robson
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1852
Registration District:Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County:Northumberland
Volume:10b
Page:11
and for the 1885 one
Name:James Clennett Robson Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1885 Registration District:Sunderland Inferred County:Durham Volume:10a Page:594
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Potty
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28 Jul 2013 17:16 |
James and Olivia's marriage:
Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
FENWICK Olivia Gateshead 10a 1428 Scan available - click to view Robson James Clennet Gateshead 10a 1428
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ArgyllGran
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28 Jul 2013 17:55 |
Hi, Marion - I'm not sure if you were asking about John Clennet Robson, or Blacksmith's striker as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksmith
"A blacksmith's striker is an assistant (frequently an apprentice), whose job it is to swing a large sledgehammer in heavy forging operations, as directed by the blacksmith. In practice, the blacksmith will hold the hot iron at the anvil (with tongs) in one hand, and indicate where the iron is to be struck by tapping it with a small hammer held in the other hand: the striker then delivers a heavy blow with the sledgehammer where indicated. During the 20th century and into the 21st century, this role has been increasingly obviated and automated through the use of trip hammers or reciprocating power hammers.about his occupation.
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29 Jul 2013 17:06 |
Once again thank you all for your replies especially to Potty about the probate for James Clennet 1852 - that would be the will of my great great grandfather who died in Ferryhill which I didn't know about. Did that information come off this site? Also thanks to ArgyllGran for the explanation about Blacksmith strikers.
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Potty
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30 Jul 2013 11:13 |
The probate record came from Ancestry; the death record from Ancestry but should be on this site too.
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