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Shirley
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23 Oct 2013 08:22 |
Thanks Marie Celeste, I guessed as much that there were no children, now I can close my search. Derek
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2013 20:29 |
There are none mentioned on the 1870 census Derek and given that Ann is 41 then I think it's unlikely they had any after that.
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Shirley
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22 Oct 2013 20:20 |
Thanks for your reply Marie Celeste, would you know if there were any children Derek
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Shirley
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22 Oct 2013 20:19 |
Thanks for your reply Marie Celeste, would you know if there were any children Derek
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2013 19:09 |
He was still at his naturalisation address in 1868:
U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 Name: William A Ireland - a clerk Residence Year: 1868 Street Address: 147 Third Av Residence Place: New York, New York Occupation: Clerk Publication Title: New York, New York, City Directory, 1868
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2013 18:58 |
Looks a possible for his naturalisation:
U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
Name: William A Ireland Birth Place: England Court District: New York Date of Action: 17 Oct 1866
Living 147 3rd Avenue, a book-keeper.
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Shirley
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22 Oct 2013 18:23 |
Thanks for finding William Auguste Ireland, I thought he would appear in the US. dEREK
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MarieCeleste
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30 Jul 2013 18:59 |
From the newspapers:
Headline: Partnerships Dissolved. Publication:Perry’s Bankrupt Gazette Publication date:Saturday 11 August 1832
Article text:"Christopher and William Waters Ireland, woollen drapers."
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alviegal
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30 Jul 2013 18:57 |
Possible death?? From http://italiangen.org/
Ireland William A 48 y Mar 17 1878 286940 Manhattan I645
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alviegal
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30 Jul 2013 18:54 |
Hooray, finally found a possible.
1860 United States Federal Census about William A Ireland Name: William A Ireland Age in 1860: 32 Birth Year: abt 1828 Birthplace: England Home in 1860: New York Ward 18 District 5, New York, New York Gender: Male Post Office: New York Value of real estate: View Image Household Members: Name Age William A Ireland 32 bookeeper Ann E Ireland 32
???? Initial is M not W on this one.
1870 United States Federal Census about M Ireland Name: M Ireland Age in 1870: 40 Birth Year: abt 1830 Birthplace: England Home in 1870: West Farms, Westchester, New York Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Morrisania Value of real estate: View Image Household Members: Name Age M Ireland 40 bookeeper, England Annie Ireland 41
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rootgatherer
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30 Jul 2013 18:43 |
Prickles, the Father's Occupation is Woollen Draper on William Auguste Ireland's baptism.
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alviegal
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30 Jul 2013 16:53 |
1841 census transcription details for: Lark Hall Lane Cleave Place, St Mary Lambeth, Kennington First, Lambeth Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1055 Book/Folio: 8/23 Page: 2 Reg. District: Lambeth Sub District: Kennington First Parish: St Mary Lambeth Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Lambeth Address: Lark Hall Lane Cleave Place, St Mary Lambeth, Kennington First, Lambeth County: Surrey Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born IRELAND, Mary F 40 1801 France IRELAND, William M 11 1830 Surrey
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alviegal
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30 Jul 2013 16:15 |
His father's death in St Marks, Kennington???
London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about William Walter Ireland Name: William Walter Ireland Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1835 Burial Date: 12 Mar 1835 Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793 Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Register
and a brother's christening. Does have something written above William's name but not sure if it is deceased?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Henry Isaac Ireland Name: Henry Isaac Ireland Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 18 Mar 1835 Father's Name: William Waters Ireland Mother's Name: Mary Ireland Parish or Poor Law Union: Kennington St Mark Borough: Lambeth Register Type: Parish Registers
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alviegal
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29 Jul 2013 13:42 |
Related??
1851 Census transcription details for: 1, Claremont Mews, Saint James Clerkenwell, London, Finsbury
National Archive Reference: RG number HO107 Piece: 1519 Folio: 465 Page: 24 Reg. District: Clerkenwell Sub District: Parish: Saint James Clerkenwell Enum. District: 16 Ecclesiastical District: Saint Mark City/Municipal Borough: Finsbury Address: 1, Claremont Mews, Saint James Clerkenwell, London, Finsbury County: Middlesex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born DIDDLE, William Head Married M 51 1800 Charcoal Dealers Labourer Much Hadham, Hertfordshire DIDDLE, Anna Wife Married F 45 1806 Mangler Limehouse, Middlesex PALMER, Ann Daughter In Law Unmarried F 23 1828 Hearth Ruge Weaver Clerkenwell PALMER, Mary Head Married F 51 1800 Goes Out Washing St Georges in the East PALMER, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 Needle Woman At Home Limehouse PALMER, Sarah Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar Limehouse
One of the witnesses.
1851 Census transcription details for: 31, Claremont Mews, Saint James Clerkenwell, London, Finsbury
National Archive Reference: RG number HO107 Piece: 1519 Folio: 467 Page: 29 Reg. District: Clerkenwell Sub District: Parish: Saint James Clerkenwell Enum. District: 16 Ecclesiastical District: Saint Mark City/Municipal Borough: Finsbury Address: 31, Claremont Mews, Saint James Clerkenwell, London, Finsbury County: Middlesex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HOLDER, Daniel Head Married M 51 1800 Livery Stable Keeper Ealing, Middlesex HOLDER, Abigail Wife Married F 44 1807 Builth, Brecknockshire >>HOLDER, Clara E Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Domestic Servant At Home Islington, Middlesex HOLDER, Thomas Son M 14 1837 Assistant At Home Clerkenwell HOLDER, James R Son M 7 1844 Scholar Clerkenwell HOLDER, Walter Son M 6 1845 Scholar Clerkenwell HOLDER, Sarah L Daughter F 3 1848 Clerkenwell
And the other one.
1851 census transcription details for: 12, Old Cavendish Street, Marylebone Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1487 Folio: 419 Page: 45 Reg. District: Marylebone Sub District: Cavendish Square Parish: Marylebone Enum. District: 8 Ecclesiastical District: All Souls City/Municipal Borough: Marylebone Address: 12, Old Cavendish Street, Marylebone County: Middlesex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born BLACK, James Head Married M 57 1794 Proprietor Of Land Houses Fifeshire, Scotland BLACK, Elizabeth Wife Married F 56 1795 Proprietor Of Land Houses St Clement, Middlesex BLACK, Robert J W Son Unmarried M 24 1827 Land Surveyer Marylebone, Middlesex >>BLACK, James R C Son Unmarried M 22 1829 General Clerk Marylebone, Middlesex
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alviegal
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29 Jul 2013 13:34 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Annie Eliza Palmer Name: Annie Eliza Palmer of Claremont Mews, of full age Spouse Name: William Auguste Freland, surveyor of Claremont Mews Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 25 Dec 1851 Parish: Clerkenwell St James Borough: Islington Father Name: Douglas Palmer, merchant Spouse Father Name: William Walters Freland, cloth merchant Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses were James Roderick Clanafrine? Black and Clara Elizabeth Holder.
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about James Roderick Clanalpine Black Name: James Roderick Clanalpine Black Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 28 Sep 1828 Father's Name: James Black Mother's Name: Elizabeth Black Parish or Poor Law Union: Langham Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers
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Cynthia
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29 Jul 2013 12:50 |
As Derek is a new poster, I will send a friendly message on how to find his way back to his thread. :-)
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MarieCeleste
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28 Jul 2013 10:51 |
Derek, how old was Annie Eliza? Have you looked for her in later records?
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MarieCeleste
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28 Jul 2013 10:43 |
Banns for the marriage:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Auguste Ireland Spouse Name: Eliza Annie Palmer Record Type: Banns Event Date: 7 Dec 1851 Parish: Clerkenwell St James Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Register
both of the parish.
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28 Jul 2013 10:43 |
He actually married "Palmer"
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Auguste Ireland Name: William Auguste Ireland Spouse Name: Eliza Annie Palmer Record Type: Banns Event Date: 7 Dec 1851 Parish: Clerkenwell St James Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Register
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MarieCeleste
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28 Jul 2013 10:35 |
Still with his mum on 1851:
IRELAND, Mary Panline Head Widow F 55 1796 Paris IRELAND, William Auguste Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Auctioneer's Clerk Clapham, Surrey
Piece: 1538 Folio: 281 Page: 13 Registration District: Shoreditch Civil Parish: Saint Leonard Shoreditch Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets
Address: 73, Great Cambridge Street, Saint Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets County: Middlesex
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