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ROSALIE HARDING BORN 1887

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ken

ken Report 27 Jul 2013 18:49


My great gran parents appear to have two children with the same name.The first one is born in Romsey Hampshire in 1868.She is still alive in the 1911 census
The only evidence that the second one exists is in the 1901 census when she is shown as 14 last birthday.
The Census form shows her also as being born in Romsey. However the family had already moved to Steventon Hampshire. She is not shown as living with the family in the 1891 census even though she would be only 4 years old.
So i suspect its the first Rosalie aged in 1901 32 or 33 and the enumerator has put in the wrong age.
Is that possible ? Does anyone else know of this lady.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Jul 2013 18:55

Have you actually looked at the 1901 image

Kay????

Kay???? Report 27 Jul 2013 18:59


Two Rosalie Hardings were registered in Hampshire,

1868---Romsey.

1898---Portsea.

Perhaps by chance the parents of both Rosalie had the same names?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Jul 2013 19:02

1891 there is this one


Name: Rosalie Hopps
[Rosalie Harding]
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Hopps
Gender: Female
Where born: Romsey, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Marylebone
Sub-registration District: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 16 and 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 104
Folio: 143
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Hopps 55
Jane Ezielli Hopps 28
Mary Ann Guppy 20
Rosalie Hopps 22
Caroline Debney 64
Rebecca Waldron 36
Anne Sarah Hodges 32
Alfred Bates 28



Who do you think her parents are ?


The 1901 census is clear as age 14 with parents of Richard and Elizabeth

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jul 2013 19:04

The image for the 1901 also clearly states age 14:

HARDING, Richard Head Married M 57 1844 Railway Signalman L S W R Romsey, Hampshire
HARDING, Elizabeth Wife Married F 58 1843 Romsey, Hampshire
HARDING, Rosalie Daughter Single F 14 1887 Romsey, Hampshire
HARDING, Ralph Son Single M 13 1888 Steventon, Hampshire

Piece: 1111 Folio: 86 Page: 5
Registration District: Basingstoke
Civil Parish: Steventon

Address: Railway Cottage, Steventon, Steventon County: Hampshire

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Jul 2013 19:05

1871

Richard Harding 27
Elizabeth Harding 25
Edith Harding 4
Rosalea Harding 2
Martha Kate Harding 2 Months


1911

Richard Harding 68
Elizabeth Harding 68
Rosalie Harding 42
Auther Harding 28
Edith Bance 44

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Original clearly says aged 14

1901

Richard Harding 57
Elizabeth Harding 58
Rosalie Harding 14
Ralph Harding 13

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Jul 2013 19:09

1891

Rick Harding 47
Elizabeth Harding 40
Ernest George Harding 11
Authur Alfred Harding 8
Edgar Ralph Harding 3

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Jul 2013 19:11

Two possibilities:

The enumerator for the 1901 misheard 32 for 14 (unlikely)

Rosalie born 1888 is actually an illegitimate granddaughter recorded as daughter to save face.

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Jul 2013 19:13

Mother Elizabeth ages 18yrs between 1891 and 1901 so maybe they were just not good at maths!!!

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 28 Jul 2013 15:16

Hello Ken and welcome to the Community Boards.





As Ken is a new poster, I will send a friendly message on how to return to his thread. :-)

ken

ken Report 28 Jul 2013 19:40

Thanks for all your help will follow up your suggestions.
I have looked at the 1901 image. I note that Edgar Ralph is shown as Ralph.

Mary

Mary Report 28 Jul 2013 20:07

1891 with Rosalie Harding as daughter of Mary Ann Hopps is yet again transcription error,on original definitely says Serv(servant) and single.

Maryb.