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Canadian Census1907 onwards please.

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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 26 Jul 2013 15:51

Think I've cracked a puzzle on my family tree, found this as FamilySearch.

Name: Aaron Renshawe
Birth Date: 1886
Birthplace: Chesterfield, England
Age: 21
Spouse's Name: Florence Phoebe Frost
Spouse's Birth Date: 1888
Spouse's Birthplace: Maxborough, England
Spouse's Age: 19
Event Date: 26 Oct 1907
Event Place: Glace Bay, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Miriam
Spouse's Father's Name: Matthew
Spouse's Mother's Name: Alice
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M3920-9
System Origin: Canada-VR
GS Film number: 1298864
Reference ID: 2:3V5PLSC

Certainly can't find this young man in England post 1901 or a possible death for him.

Would love to know if they had any children.

Any help much appreciated.

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Jul 2013 15:58

don't now if this will be of any help

Canada Vital Records - WorldVitalRecords.com
worldvitalrecords.com/Canada+Records
Birth, Marriage, Divorce, Death - Free 3-Day Trial!
Yearbooks
Birth/Death Records
Historic Newspapers
Military Records

Gee

Gee Report 26 Jul 2013 16:12

???



West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910

Name:
Aaron Matthew Renshaw

Parish:
South Kirkby, All Saints

Baptism Date:
7 Apr 1909

Father's Name:
Aaron Renshaw <<Coal miner

Mother's Name:
Florence Phoebe Renshaw

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Jul 2013 16:16

His attestation papers for WW1 are here:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_url=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc015/600063a.gif&id_nbr=598251

Edit: Oops, perhaps I've got the wrong person, mother's name is Miriam Sarah.









Gee

Gee Report 26 Jul 2013 16:19

Did the son use his middle name?


U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current

Name:
Mathew A. Renshaw

SSN:
368-07-9630

Last Residence:
48449 Lennon, Genesee, Michigan, USA

Born:
8 Mar 1909

Died:
11 May 1990

State (Year) SSN issued:
Michigan (Before 1951)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Jul 2013 16:20

Unfortunately he seemed to be a casualty of WW1:

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/collections/virtualmem/Detail/535205?AARON%20RENSHAW

Edit: As per my previous edit this could be the wrong person as mother's name was wrong on his attestation papers.

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 26 Jul 2013 16:28

That's my fella. Thanks very, very, much.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Jul 2013 16:31

This is the Canadian soldier but is he yours?

1901 England Census
about Aaron Renshaw Name: Aaron Renshaw
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Aaron Renshaw
Mother's Name: Miriam S Renshaw
Gender: Male
Where born: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Chesterfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Chesterfield St Mary and Calow All Saints
Town: Chesterfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Registration District: Chesterfield
Sub-registration District: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 99
Piece: 3247
Folio: 45
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Renshaw 55
Miriam S Renshaw 57
Arthur Renshaw 23
Walter Renshaw 18
Florence M Renshaw 15
****Aaron Renshaw 13
David Renshaw 10



Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Jul 2013 16:32

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=renshaw&GSfn=aaron&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=79566841&df=all&

(above might relate?)


In loving memory of Ann Ada,
the beloved daughter of
Aaron & Miriam Sarah Renshaw,
who died Nov. 4 1898,
aged 22 years.
We cannot, Lord, thy purpose see,
But all is well that's done by thee.
Also Aaron Renshaw
who died May 4 1917
aged 73 years.
Also of Aaron,
beloved son of the above,
who fell in action, Aug. 28th. 1918,
aged 30 years.
Also Miriam Sarah Renshaw
who died Aug. 30 1937
aged 87 years.

Chris :)

Gee

Gee Report 26 Jul 2013 16:33

Did Florence re-marry



Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928

Name:Florence Phoebe Frost

Spouse Name:
Roy Arby Culp

Marriage Date:13 Aug 1911

Marriage County or District:Lincoln


Porkies about her age!

Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928


Name:Florence P Frost

Age:19

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1892

Father Name:Matthew Frost

Mother Name:Annie Coopwood

Spouse Name:Roy Arby Culp

Spouse's Age:18

Spouse Birth Year:abt 1893

Spouse Father Name:Judson Culp

Spouse Mother Name:Rosie Foster

Marriage Date:13 Aug 1911

Marriage County or District:Lincoln

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 26 Jul 2013 16:37

Yes, he's definitely the fella I'm looking for. The address crossed out in his attestation papers is where his parents are living in 1911.

Must have divorced Florence!!!!!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Jul 2013 16:37

Sorry for my edits, Joy, just another senior moment! I was looking at the spouses parents' names on that marriage record so thought his mother's name was wrong.

Curious though that his mother was named as next-of-kin and not his wife. Do you suppose she had died?

Gee

Gee Report 26 Jul 2013 16:42

Joy

Would this be Florence P



Web: Michigan, Find A Grave Index, 1805-2012


Name:
Florence Culp

Death Date:
5 Aug 1947

Burial Place:
Flushing, Genesee County, Michigan, USA

URL:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

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Gee

Gee Report 26 Jul 2013 16:45


1940 United States Federal Census


Name:Phoebert Culp

Respondent:Yes

Age:49

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1891

Gender:
Female

Birthplace:
England

Marital Status:
Married

Relation to Head of House:
Wife

Home in 1940:Swartz Creek, Genesee, Michigan

Map of Home in 1940:

Street:Corunna Road

Inferred Residence in 1935:Swartz Creek, Genesee, Michigan

Residence in 1935:Same House

Resident on farm in 1935:Yes

Citizenship:Alien

Sheet Number:14A

Attended School or College:
No

Highest Grade Completed:
Elementary school, 8th grade

Weeks Worked in 1939:



Roy Nebrazy Culp 48
Phoebert Culp 49
Annice Culp 16
Pearl Knapp 24
Shirley Knapp 3


Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 26 Jul 2013 16:51

Thanks everyone, particularly with regard to the grave information.

:-D

mgnv

mgnv Report 28 Jul 2013 05:40

CWGC says:
RENSHAW, A
Rank:Private
Service No:201252
Date of Death:28/08/1918
Regiment/Service:Canadian Infantry 20th Bn.
Grave Reference A. 27.
Cemetery QUEBEC CEMETERY, CHERISY
Additional Information:
Son of Mrs. Renshaw, of 59, Station Rd., Chesterfield, England.
[Incidentally, if you follow the cemetery link, I think the Google Maps link has the wrong coords - try 50.23329,2.93078]


http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform-digitization/006003-110.01-e.php
Title: Commonwealth War Graves Registers, First World War
Microform: 31830_B016638
Page 130 of 1101 [and p 131]

Title: Circumstances of Death Registers, First World War
Microform: 31829_B016706
Page 408 of 923 [p 409 is essentially blank]


http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/index-e.html
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc015/600063b.gif has back of attestation
Search help links to:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/020152_e.html
Looking up 20th battalion gets a mess of stuff, including:
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e039/e000960861.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e039/e000960862.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e039/e000960863.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e039/e000960864.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e039/e000960865.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e039/e000960866.jpg

Reading these war diaries, it seems the battalion took quite a hammering in the attack - over 75% casualies, and typically, 25-30% of casualties were fatal.

The 20th battalion was one of 4 bns in the 4th brigade, which was one of 3 bdes in the 2nd Canadian Division, which was one of 4 divs in the Canadian Corps.

Author: Nicholson, G.W.L
Official History of the Canadian Army in the First World War: Candian Expeditionary Force, 1914-1919
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/his/oh-ho/detail-eng.asp?BfBookLang=1&BfId=22
[See especially Chap 14 with sketch 50 and map 12]


Ship: SIBERIAN
Shipping Line: Furness Allan
Departure Port and Date (yyyy/mm/dd): Liverpool, England - 1906-07-27
St. John's, Nfld. - [1906-08]
Port and Date of Arrival: Halifax, N.S. - 1906-08-07
Philadelphia, PA - [1906-08]
Remarks: List Number: 545550
Reference: RG 76
Microfilm: T-501
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e148/e003698905.jpg
[Aaron a=22, miner, bound for Glace Bay (NS)]


https://novascotiagenealogy.com/
There's a marr hit for Renshowe, Aaron Frost, Florence Phobe Cape Breton County 1907
[Note spelling]
You can see an image of the m.rego, both their dads were miners, and both were living at Caledonia, Glace Bay. It's now a southern neighbourhood in Glace Bay.
Glace Bay is 20km NE of Sydney CBI, and is on the outer Atlantic coast.


1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON HALDIMAND & MONCK (#67)
Subdistrict: Dunnville (Village) G-1 Page 1-2
48 11 Culp Judson M Head M Mar 28 1862 38
49 11 Culp Rosey F Wife M Apr 2 1872 29
50 11 Culp Ethel F Daughter S Oct 7 1886 14
1 11 Culp Clawdy M Son S Mar 2 1892 9
2 11 Culp Roy M Son S Apr 6 1894 6
3 11 Culp Elma F Daughter S Sep 26 1895 5
4 11 Culp Robert M Son S Sep 26 1897 3
5 11 Culp Charles M Son S Jun 21 1899 1
6 11 Culp Iven M Son S May 17 1889 11
S1 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/pdf/z000066183.pdf
S1 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/pdf/z000066184.pdf
S2 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/pdf/z000066179.pdf
[P1L48 addy = Mill St]


1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 46 Dunnville / page 12
12 144 Culp Judson M Head M Mar 1862 49
13 144 Culp Rosedetta F Wife M Apr 1872 39
14 144 Culp Claude M Son S Mar 1892 19
15 144 Culp Roy M Son S Apr 1894 17
16 144 Culp Elva F Daughter S Sep 1896 15
17 144 Culp Robert M Son S Sep 1898 13
18 144 Culp Sharlott F Daughter S Jun 1897 12
19 144 Culp Minerva F Daughter S May 1901 10
20 144 Culp Lorn M Son S May 1903 8
21 144 Culp Oscar M Son S Mar 1904 7
22 144 Culp Edna F Daughter S Sep 1907 4
23 144 Culp Carl M Son S Jan 1910 1
24 144 Ro??y William M Lodger S Dec 23
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989921.pdf


Births Sep 1891 (>99%)
Frost Florance Phoebe Doncaster 9c 751 Scan available - click to view
[Mexborough was in Doncaster RD thru 1938q2]

Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
FROST Florence P Barnburgh Doncaster BARN/29/91
[Mexborough is 3km S of Barnburgh]


Ship: CITY OF BOMBAY
Shipping Line: Furness Allan
Departure Port and Date (yyyy/mm/dd): Liverpool, England - 1906-08-21
Port and Date of Arrival: Halifax, N.S. - 1906-09-01
Remarks: List Number: 552648
Reference: RG 76
Microfilm: T-501
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e148/e003698848.jpg
[Bound for Glace Bay]

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Jul 2013 12:50

Name: Annice Mary Moore
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 02 Nov 1936
Event Place: Flint, Genesee, Michigan, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 16 Oct 1901
Birthplace: Mexbrough, England
Birth Year (Estimated): 1901
Father's Name: Matthew Frost
Mother's Name: Annice Eastwood

The above may well be Forence' family.....


Name: Matthew Frost
Arrival Date: 27 Feb 1911
Arrival Port: Buffalo, New York,
Age: 36
Birth Year (Estimated): 1875
Birth Date:
Birthplace: , York
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race: English
Last Place of Residence:
Accompanied by Name:
Departure Date:
Departure Port:
Departure Contact Name: Wife Annice
Arrival Contact Name:
Ship Name:
Airline:
Photograph Included: N
Affiliate Publication Title: Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Buffalo, Niagara Falls, and Rochester, New York, 1902-1954
Affiliate Publication Number: M1480


Familysearch.org


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Jul 2013 13:19

This is Matthew's draft card details....


Name: Matthew Samuel Frost
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1942
Event Place: Flint, Genesee, Michigan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 29 Dec 1893
Affiliate Publication Title: World War II Draft Cards (4th Registration) for the State of Michigan


Parents Mathew and Alice

mgnv

mgnv Report 28 Jul 2013 13:40

Here's his attestation papers - both front & back:

http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc015/600063a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc015/600063b.gif

(Margee just gave the front in oops post)