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RE. Martha Appleton. Nee Seaman 1831

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Christine

Christine Report 25 Jul 2013 12:21

Martha was married to a Christopher Appleton. In the 1871 cences they had two children Sarah and Christopher. In the 1891 Martha was a widow and lived with George Brazell and Ellen with two step kids for George who were Sarah and Christopher Appleton Ellens kids. Then in 1901 Ellen married again with Martha living with George and Ellen Love, stating that Martha was the mother in law. This is where I am stuck I cannot find a child named Ellen for Martha. Also I believe that Sarah and Chris were Illigitemate to Ellen . Help me please thank you regards Christine.

safc

safc Report 25 Jul 2013 12:31

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Christopher Appleton, "England and Wales Census, 1871"
Name: Christopher Appleton
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 41
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Norwich, Norfolk
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Norwich
Sub-District: Wymer, East
Parish: St James
County: Norfolk
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Christopher Appleton M 41 Norwich, Norfolk
Wife Martha Appleton F 39 Catton, Norfolk
Daughter Sarah Appleton F 13 Norwich, Norfolk
Son Christopher Appleton M 9 Norwich, Norfolk
Sister-in-law Mary Ann Seaman F 25 Norwich, Norfolk
Servant Emma Clayton F 17 Norwich, Norfolk

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 Jul 2013 12:32

1891 for reference and area
BRAZELL, George H Head Married M 36 1855 Labourer
Norwich VIEW
BRAZELL, Ellen Wife Married F 30 1861
Norwich VIEW
BRAZELL, Alice Daughter Single F 2 1889
Norwich VIEW
BRAZELL, Albert G Son Single M 0 (8M) 1891
Norwich VIEW
APPLETON, Christopher Stepson Single M 10 1881 School
Norwich VIEW
APPLETON, Sarah Stepdaughter Single F 9 1882 School
Norwich VIEW
APPLETON, Martha Lodger Widow F 60 1831
Norwich VIEW
CADYWOLD, Beatrice Niece Single F 10 1881 School
Norwich VIEW

Piece: 1518

Folio: 88

Page: 4

Registration District: Norwich

Civil Parish: Norwich

Municipal Borough: Norwich

Address: 16, Distillery Yard, Norwich

County: Norfolk

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Jul 2013 12:33

Marriages Dec 1886

Appleton Eleanor Norwich 4b 361
BRAZELL George Henry Norwich 4b 361



Deaths Jun 1895 Brazel George Henry 40 Norwich 4b 70



Marriages Jun 1896

BRAZELL Ellen Norwich 4b 259
LOVE George William Norwich 4b 259

safc

safc Report 25 Jul 2013 12:33

Christopher Appleton, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: Christopher Appleton
Age (Original): 52
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1829
Birthplace: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: License Victuller & Fish Merch
Address: (Kings Head) St James St
Event Place: Norwich St James, Norfolk, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341467
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 1940 / 89
Page Number: 10
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Christopher Appleton M 52 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Wife Martha Appleton F 50 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Son Christopher Appleton M 19 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Lodger Richard Spalls M 29 Norwich, Norfolk, England

safc

safc Report 25 Jul 2013 12:35

Name: George Henry Brazell
Birth Date: 1856
Birthplace:
Age: 30
Spouse's Name: Eleanor Maria Widow Appleton
Spouse's Birth Date: 1860
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 26
Event Date: 26 Dec 1886
Event Place: St. Martin At Oak Church, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: George Brazell
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: John Codywould
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03327-8
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1526322
Reference ID: 154

Potty

Potty Report 25 Jul 2013 12:35

This looks like Ellen's marriage to George Love - the certificate would give you her father's name, to confirm that she was Christopher's daughter

Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
BRAZELL Ellen Norwich 4b 259 Scan available - click to view
LOVE George William Norwich 4b 259

safc

safc Report 25 Jul 2013 12:37

County Norfolk
Place Norwich
Church St Michael Coslany
RegisterNumber 308
MarriageDate 26 Dec 1886
GroomForename George Henry
GroomSurname BRAZELL
GroomAge 30
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Gas Engineer
GroomAbode
BrideForename Eleanor Maria
BrideSurname APPLETON
BrideAge 26
BrideParish
BrideCondition Widow
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename George
GroomFatherSurname BRAZELL
GroomFatherOccupation Clerk
BrideFatherForename John
BrideFatherSurname CADYWOULD
BrideFatherOccupation Shopkeeper
WitnessOneForename William
WitnessOneSurname BRAZELL
WitnessTwoForename Mary Ann Lydia
WitnessTwoSurname DAYNES
Notes Bride and witness 2 signed with marks
FileNumber 20430

safc

safc Report 25 Jul 2013 12:39

County Norfolk
Place Norwich
Church St Michael Coslany
RegisterNumber 330
MarriageDate 03 May 1896
GroomForename George William
GroomSurname LOVE
GroomAge 28
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Carpenter
GroomAbode Coslany Street
BrideForename Ellen
BrideSurname BRAZELL
BrideAge 36
BrideParish
BrideCondition Widow
BrideOccupation Publican
BrideAbode Coslany Street
GroomFatherForename George
GroomFatherSurname LOVE
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer (deceased)
BrideFatherForename John
BrideFatherSurname CADDYWOULD
BrideFatherOccupation Weaver
WitnessOneForename William
WitnessOneSurname BURRELL
WitnessTwoForename Alice
WitnessTwoSurname CARVER
Notes Bride signed her mark.
FileNumber 20430

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Jul 2013 12:41

Marriages Jun 1881

APPLETON Christopher Norwich 4b 250
CADYWOULD Ellen Norwich 4b 250

Potty

Potty Report 25 Jul 2013 12:43

So Martha is Ellen's mother in law, not her husband/s.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Jul 2013 12:44

Deaths Dec 1882 Appleton Christopher 20 Norwich 4b 73


So the children were not illegitimate - their father had died.


Births Dec 1881 Appleton Christopher Norwich 4b 122

Births Mar 1883 APPLETON Sarah Norwich 4b 131

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Jul 2013 12:52

Births Mar 1861 CADYWOLD Ellen Norwich 4b 105

1861

Name: Ellen Cadywould
Age: 5 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Cadywould
Mother's Name: Caroline Cadywould
Gender: Female
Where born: Norwich

Civil Parish: Norwich St Mary at Coslany
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Norwich
Sub-registration District: Coslany
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 55
Piece: 1210
Folio: 123
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
John Cadywould 38, Silk Worker
Caroline Cadywould 39
Susan Cadywould 12
Caroline Cadywould 11
John Cadywould 9
William Cadywould 7
Eliza Cadywould 5
Mary Ann Cadywould 4
Henry Cadywould 2
Ellen Cadywould 5 Months

safc

safc Report 25 Jul 2013 13:04

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Marriages Jun 1848 (>99%)
BRADY John Morris Norwich 13 483
CADYWOULD John Norwich 13 483 xxxxxxx
Fletcher Caroline Norwich 13 483
Poll Ann Norwich 13 483
THOMPSON William Norwich 13 483
Wragg Martha Norwich 13 483

safc

safc Report 25 Jul 2013 13:09

County Norfolk
Place Norwich
Church St Augustine
RegisterNumber 244
MarriageDate 25 Dec 1853
GroomForename Christopher
GroomSurname APPLETON
GroomAge 25
GroomParish
GroomCondition Widower
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode Middle Street
BrideForename Martha
BrideSurname SEAMAN
BrideAge 23
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Middle Street
GroomFatherForename Christopher
GroomFatherSurname APPLETON
GroomFatherOccupation Weaver
BrideFatherForename Joseph
BrideFatherSurname SEAMAN
BrideFatherOccupation Weaver
WitnessOneForename John
WitnessOneSurname WORLEDGE
WitnessTwoForename Charles
WitnessTwoSurname DENNINGTON
Notes Groom signs X
FileNumber 20329

Christine

Christine Report 25 Jul 2013 13:57

thank you all for the information. Had most of it but it was Ellen that confused me. Thanks againregards christine