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Mystery family member

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Nyn

Nyn Report 23 Jul 2013 20:37

I am researching my maternal Kentish family. My Great grand parents are Valentine (born 1839) and Matilda (born 1844) Burley ne' Hammond. One of their daughters, Harriot Emma married Demetrius Foster in 1894. Whilst following the Foster family I came across a Margaret Seamark Foster possibly born in 1895 on another members family tree and attributed to Harriot (known as Emma) and Demetrius. I knew this family and am sure that she was not their child. On researching the vast number in the Foster family I have found possible parents but nothing concrete and one possibility didnt appear to be an actual family member. Hence I ceased my search. I recently came in possession of my great Aunt Lucy Burleys will - mentioned in this will was one Margaret Seamark Foster, so she must belong to the family somehow. I would dearly love to know who she actually belongs to. Can anyone out there help confirm her parentage Please?

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Jul 2013 21:03

I guess this is one of the children, noting the middle name, just using this as a reference point

Births Jun 1897 (>99%)

Foster Demetrius Semark Dartford 2a 502

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Jul 2013 21:07

Births Sep 1895 (>99%)
Foster Margaret Dartford 2a 498

looking at the trees that have her on , 1895 is given as birth, so this is the most likely one?

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Jul 2013 21:10

this may be relevant?

Richard Foster, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "

Nom: Richard Foster
Nom du conjoint: Elizabeth Seamark

Date de l'événement: 1748
Date de l'événement: 24 Oct 1748
Lieu de l'événement: Aylesford, Kent, England

Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre: M03651-2
Origine du système: England-VR
Numéro de film: 1469176
ID de référence: 2:JR2X06

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Jul 2013 21:11

Connection?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Morland Seamark Foster




Name:
Morland Seamark Foster

Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1894
Registration District:Dartford
Inferred County:Kent
Volume:2a
Page:506


Andy

EDIT, No wrong family

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Jul 2013 21:12

But I think this is that 1895 birth, as neither have that middle initial.

ame: Margaret Foster
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Foster
Mother's Name: Emily Foster
Gender: Female
Where born: Crayford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Crayford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paulinus
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 23 Jul 2013 21:12

Demetrius sr: in 1871

Name: Demetrius Foster
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 3
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Kingsdown, Kent
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Dartford
Sub-District: Farningham
Parish: Kingsdown
County: Kent
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self John Foster M 47 Kingsdown, Kent
Wife Charlotte Foster F 41 Stansted, Kent
Son John Foster M 20 Kingsdown, Kent
Son Edward Foster M 19 Kingsdown, Kent
Son Robert Foster M 9 Kingsdown, Kent
Daughter Sarah Foster F 7 Kingsdown, Kent
Daughter Rosina Foster F 6 Kingsdown, Kent
Daughter Mary Ann Foster F 4 Kingsdown, Kent
Son Demetrius Foster M 3 Kingsdown, Kent
Daughter Sophia Foster F 1 Kingsdown, Kent

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 23 Jul 2013 21:12

And -

Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%)
Foster John Dartford 5 139
Seamark Charlotte Dartford 5 139 <<<<<<<

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 23 Jul 2013 21:17

So Margaret could be Demetrius's niece, going by RamblingRose's find (the daughter of Demetrius's brother Robert).

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Jul 2013 21:21

This is the family in 1901

1901 England Census about Demetrius Foster
Name: Demetrius Foster
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet E Foster
Gender: Male
Where born: Sevenoaks, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Dartford
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Dartford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration District: Dartford
Sub-registration District: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 199
Piece: 702
Folio: 102
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Demetrius Foster 31
Harriet E Foster 27
Demetrius S Foster 3
Cecil P Foster 2
Hilda G Foster 1

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jul 2013 21:23

There's a WW1 soldier by the name of Demetrius Seamark Foster. Must be some relation surely?

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about Demetrins Seamark Foster Name: Demetrins Seamark Foster
[Demetrius Seamark Foster]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age at enlistment: 19
Residence: Chataghern Dover Road, Sandwick Kent
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 11447
Regiment Name: ?? Kent
Number of images: 10

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Jul 2013 21:25

I think it is likely that the tree owners have just attached her to the wrong father, they are private trees on Ancestry and do not have a great deal of sourced info as far as I can see,

but this is interesting, one has a marriage

Marriage to Private
1943 — Age: 48
Kensington Middlesex England

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Jul 2013 21:26

Presumably this one, marriage cert will confirm father

Marriages Jun 1943 (>99%)

Foster Margaret S Wright Kensington 1a 334
Wright Lancelot A Foster Kensington 1a 334

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Jul 2013 00:29

Picking up the John Foster/Charlotte Seamark 1850 marriage.

From Freereg.org.uk

County Kent
Place Ash next Ridley
Church St Peter and St Paul
RegisterNumber 50
MarriageDate 15 Jun 1850
GroomForename John
GroomSurname FOSTER
GroomAge 25
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode Ash
BrideForename Charlotte
BrideSurname SEAMARK
BrideAge 21
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Ash
GroomFatherForename John
GroomFatherSurname FOSTER
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
>>>>BrideFatherForename Demetrius
>>>>BrideFatherSurname SEAMARK
BrideFatherOccupation Bailiff
WitnessOneForename Lawrence
WitnessOneSurname FOSTER
WitnessTwoForename Amy
WitnessTwoSurname LANE
Notes John Foster signs X. Charlotte Seamark signs X. Lawrence Foster signs X. Amy Lane signs X.
FileNumber 13530

The actual image will be on http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/

Not quite sure how that helps!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Jul 2013 07:54

1911 census


Person: FOSTER, Hilda Grace Address: Chotaghur Stone Cross Sandwich

FOSTER, Demetrius E Head Married M 41 1870 District Surveyor Kingsdown Kent VIEW
FOSTER, Harriett E Wife Married17 years F 37 1874 Sittingbourne Kent VIEW
FOSTER, Demetrues S Son M 14 1897 School Dartford Kent VIEW
FOSTER, Cicel Percy Son M 13 1898 School Dartford Kent VIEW
FOSTER, Hilda Grace Daughter F 11 1900 School Dartford Kent VIEW
FOSTER, Leslie Hector Son M 9 1902 School Dartford Kent VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 4548 Reference: RG14PN4548 RG78PN188 RD64 SD1 ED10 SN41 Registration District: Eastry Sub District: Sandwich Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Worth

4 children born in marriage..............all living.

ALL accounted for on census........................QED



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Jul 2013 07:56

How was Margaret described in the Will to which you refer?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Jul 2013 07:57

Death
Name: WRIGHT, Margaret Semark
Registration district: Kent
County: Kent
Year of registration: 2003
Month of registration: September
Date of Birth:19 September 1931 ********
District no: 5641R
Reg no: KDR2
Ent no: 069
DOR: 903

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Jul 2013 08:04

Have you tried to contact the member who has this Margaret in his/her tree?

.............to find out where he/she got their so-called info about her

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 24 Jul 2013 19:06

Hello Tailsend and welcome to the Community boards.







As Tailsend is a new poster, I will send a friendly message on how to return to this thread. :-)

Nyn

Nyn Report 25 Jul 2013 19:50

Thank you so much for all the information. Some of which I already knew but some I was unaware of. Gt aunt Lucy's will is not clear as to what relation Margaret Semark Foster is to her. I have discovered a Margaret born 1895 to a Robert Foster but he doesnt appear to be Robert, the brother of Demetrius, he (Robert) was born in Kent and married to a lady with a different name!
The Margaret S. married in 1943 is a possibility but until I obtain the marriage certificate her parentage cannot be confirmed - but then why would she be called "Foster" in a will written in 1951?
Again, my thanks