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MC/Jan/FBG - just for info Lower Machen is just outside the city of Newport (was Gwent was Monmouthshire)

Jude :-)

Thank you MC that really is helpful. Does it mean anything if I can't locate her on census records in 1851 or 1861. Just wodnering what that means? Thank you so much for all your help. I'me now starting on the other side with the surname Pincott.

Hello Margaret, we seemed to hit lucky with some parish records on FindMyPast.

There is a summary transcription of Mary Jane's marriage to Moses Cardy on FamilySearch
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KCTP-KYW

Kentspear and variations such as Kentsbeer seem to have been around in Devon for a long while, but it is across the Channel from Brittany so who knows ........

Sorry realise it was through Moses Cordy Missed that bit!! Looks as if we may after all hail from Exeter rather than Brittany. Poor Mum she'll be disappointed though I have to say they still look Breton! Thank you for all your help. You've given me so much useful information about how to pursue this.

Hi Marie Celeste

I think you may have solved a problem baffling family. Particularly reference to Kentspear which is what my mum kept saying was her great grandmothers surname and she insists that she came from Brittany. Thankyou so much that really is very helpful. Can I ask how you came to put in that information? Seemed not quite to follow thread!

1851 to prove it MC...

Reg. District: Newport
Sub District: Caerleon
Parish: Christ Church
Enum. District: 13B
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Bishpool, Christ Church
County: Monmouthshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BARRETT, John Head Married M 36 1815 Labourer
Goldcliff, Monmouthshire
BARRETT, Sarah Wife Married F 37 1814
Redwick, Monmouthshire
PRICE, Esther Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836
Redwick, Monmouthshire
PRICE, Sarah Ann Daughter F 12 1839
Redwick, Monmouthshire
BARRETT, George Son M 1 1850
Nash, Monmouthshire
KENTSPEAR, Joseph Lodger Married M 30 1821 Labourer
Exeter, Devonshire
KENTSPEAR, Mary Lodger Married F 38 1813
Exeter, Devonshire
KENTSPEAR, Eliza Lodger F 5 1846
Exeter, Devonshire
KENTSPEAR, Joseph Lodger M 1 1850
Exeter, Devonshire

Blessed where Mary Jane is though..!!!


Edit....Snap MC

Although there's not a Mary Jane, this 1851 must surely be a connection?

BARRETT, John Head Married M 36 1815 Labourer Goldcliff, Monmouthshire
BARRETT, Sarah Wife Married F 37 1814 Redwick, Monmouthshire
PRICE, Esther Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Redwick, Monmouthshire
PRICE, Sarah Ann Daughter F 12 1839 Redwick, Monmouthshire
BARRETT, George Son M 1 1850 Nash, Monmouthshire
KENTSPEAR, Joseph Lodger Married M 30 1821 Labourer Exeter, Devonshire
KENTSPEAR, Mary Lodger Married F 38 1813 Exeter, Devonshire
KENTSPEAR, Eliza Lodger F 5 1846 Exeter, Devonshire
KENTSPEAR, Joseph Lodger M 1 1850 Exeter, Devonshire

Piece: 2451 Folio: 112 Page: 1
Registration District: Newport
Civil Parish: Christ Church

Address: Bishpool, Christ Church County: Monmouthshire

Looks like you cracked it you two...Well done MC and Jan...Good work...

Was just going to put this 1851 Jan.

Reg. District: Newport
Sub District: Mynyddyslwyn
Parish: Machen
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: Lower Machen
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: River Row, Machen
County: Monmouthshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CARDEY, Grace Head Widow F 52 1799
Poulton, Gloucestershire
CARDEY, Moses Son Unmarried M 12 1839 Collier
Machen, Monmouthshire
PRICE, John Lodger Married M 32 1819 Grocer
Knighton, Radnorshire
PRICE, Sarah Wife Married F 30 1821
Newland, Gloucestershire
PRICE, Sarah Jane Daughter F 6 1845
Treverthin, Monmouthshire

I know Cansfer doesn't look like Kentspear, but say them out loud:

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record

Grooms Last Name: Cardy
Grooms First Name: Moses - collier
Grooms Fathers First Name: Charles
Grooms Fathers Last Name: Cardy
Grooms Parish:
Grooms Age: Full
Brides Last Name: Kentspear
Brides First Name: Mary Jane
Brides Fathers First Name: Joseph - labourer
Brides Fathers Last Name: Kentspear
Brides Parish:
Brides Age: Full
County: Monmouthshire
Place / Parish: Newport, St Woolos
Marriage Year: 1866
Marriage Month: Oct
Marriage Day: 22
Page: 250
Record source: Monmouthshire Marriages - Transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

Neither married before.

Witnesses: Rosa Chalker and J N Gregory.

Possible her first husband actually was called Moses, too:

Parish Record Collection - Burial Record


Last name: Cordey
First Name: Moses
County: Monmouthshire
Place / Parish: Risca
Age: 33
Burial Year: 1870
Burial Month: Oct
Burial Day: 26
Died Year: -
Died Month: -
Died Day: -
Fathers Forenames: -
Mothers Forenames: -
Husbands Forenames: -
Page: 145
Record source: Monmouthshire Burials - Transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

The others in 1871, for reference:

CARDEY, William Head M 39 1832 Monmouthshire , a collier (widower)
CARDEY, George J Son M 11 1860 Monmouthshire
CARDEY, Beatrice Daughter F 9 1862 Monmouthshire
CARDEY, Edith A Daughter F 7 1864 Monmouthshire
RIDLER, Eliza Servant F 37 1834 Not Known

Piece: 5353 Folio: 137 Page: 30
Registration District: Newport
Civil Parish: Lower Machen

Address: River Row, Lower Machen County: Monmouthshire

But look at this ladies..!!

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

Print Close
Day: 05
Month: Jun
Year: 1870
Forename(s): Joseph
Surname: Cordy
Relationship: Son
Abode: Machen
Parent's Name: Moses & Mary Jane
Parent's Trade or Profession: Collier
Notes:
Minister & Position: William Phillips, Curate
Parish: Risca
Church: St Mary
County: Monmouthshire

I think the surname on the image looks more like Canfer, but not finding any records under either variation.

Looks a possibility that the other Cardys on the 1871 might be family of her first husband?

Brilliant MC!

Well done MC...!

Found the marriage:

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record

Grooms Last Name: Hayes
Grooms First Name: Moses
Grooms Fathers First Name: John - a miner
Grooms Fathers Last Name: Hayes
Grooms Parish:
Grooms Age: Full
Brides Last Name: Cordey
Brides First Name: Mary Jane - a widow
Brides Fathers First Name: Joseph - a labourer
Brides Fathers Last Name: Causfer
Brides Parish:
Brides Age: Full
County: Monmouthshire
Place / Parish: Llanhiledd
Marriage Year: 1873
Marriage Month: Mar
Marriage Day: 7
Page: 63
Record source: Monmouthshire Marriages - Transcripts
Data provider: Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

Witnesses: John Mannell (Morrell??) and an Eliza same surname.

EDIT: Have added more detail above.

Arghhhhhhhhhhh...You deleted Jan....!

Oooops No you didnt..Im going nuts.Sorry..:D

I noted Cardey/Cordeys on the page of 1871 census too..

Yep....Def in need of her MC to Moses and prob could use Josephs birth cert too..

Fans

This is obviously the Mary you have for 1871. However, have you noticed the other Cardey's on the next page?

1871 Wales Census
Name: Mary J Cardey
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockermouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Lower Machen
Town: Lower Machen
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration District: Newport
Sub-registration District: Mynyddyslwyn

William Clifford 21
Mary Clifford 20
Mary A Clifford 1 Month
Mary J Cardey 25
Joseph Cardey 10 Months