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Vivienne
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8 Jul 2013 10:43 |
Thanks very much. The baptism of John 1833 in Shoreditch is correct. IJust information about his parents and siblings is the mystery. Can't find anything about his dad's death date/place, nor any info on his step mother and siblings other than the Census
Regards Viv Crudeli, Geraldton Western Australia
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8 Jul 2013 10:25 |
Re: the John Giles b 1856 shown on the 1871 - I'm wondering if he was actually a grandson mis-recorded?
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8 Jul 2013 10:22 |
Looking at th original of the 1851, Robert A's middle name certainly looks like Albert:
GILES, John Head Married M 43 1808 Clothier Assistant Reading, Berkshire GILES, Elenor Wife Married F 31 1820 London, Middlesex GILES, John Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Barrister Clerk Shoreditch, Middlesex GILES, Henry Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Errand Boy Shoreditch, Middlesex GILES, William Son Unmarried M 12 1839 Errand Boy Shoreditch, Middlesex GILES, Robert Abbott Son Unmarried M 9 1842 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex GILES, Elizabeth E Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex GILES, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 4 1847 Shoreditch, Middlesex GILES, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 0 (10 MOS) 1851 St Lukes, Middlesex SEARLES, William Robt Unmarried M 24 1827 Canvasser Public Company Lambeth, Surrey FROST, George Unmarried M 19 1832 Assistant Eating House Shoreditch, Middlesex
Piece: 1521 Folio: 352 Page: 26 Registration District: Saint Luke Civil Parish: Saint Luke Municipal Borough: Finsbury
Address: 16, Norman Street, Saint Luke, Finsbury County: Middlesex
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8 Jul 2013 10:04 |
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Name: John Gray Giles Gender: Male Christening Date: 02 Nov 1817 Christening Place: STANFORD IN THE VALE,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Maria Giles Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02213-3 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 1041799 Reference ID:
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MarieCeleste
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8 Jul 2013 09:59 |
1841:
GILES, John M 30 1811 - a clothier GILES, Ellen F 20 1821 Middlesex GILES, John M 9 1832 Middlesex GILES, Henry M 5 1836 Middlesex GILES, William M 3 1838 Middlesex GILES, Frederic M 1 1840 Middlesex ASH, Ann F 70 1771 Middlesex MERTANY, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Middlesex
Piece: 709 Book/Folio: 4/42 Page: 5 Registration District: Shoreditch Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets
Address: Shoreditch, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets County: Middlesex
His occupation on here matches John jnr's baptism and Ann Ash must be his former mother in law.
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8 Jul 2013 09:53 |
Is this the baptism of John born 1833?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: John Giles Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 15 Feb 1833 - born 26 Jan Father's Name: John Giles - clothes dealer Mother's Name: Elizabeth Giles Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
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Vivienne
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8 Jul 2013 09:19 |
wow, thanks. Lot more than I could find. It helps when you know where and how to look. I will try to follow up with this info. Thanks for your help and if you come across any more info, it will be greatly appreciated. One question: 1871 Census = GILES, John Son M 15 1856 Middlesex Shoreditch Book binder. Am I to assume that GGG grandfather John had another son and named him John as well? As my GG grandfather was John Giles b 1833.
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Kucinta
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8 Jul 2013 04:05 |
There is a baptism for a John Giles in Reading:
Name: John Giles Gender: Male Christening Date: 24 Jun 1807 Christening Place: SAINT GILES,READING,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: John Giles Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Anne Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P01764-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 88342 Reference ID:
Parents John and Anne have other children baptised at Reading, including a daughter named Mary Ann, who could be the aunt that John and Eleanor's daughter Eliza was staying with in the1861 census I posted above:
Name: Mary Ann Giles Gender: Female Christening Date: 19 Mar 1806 Christening Place: SAINT GILES,READING,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: John Giles Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Ann Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P01764-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 88342
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8 Jul 2013 04:03 |
I can't find John and Eleanor in 1861:
Daughter Eliza is in Reading with her aunt and uncle:
Name: Eliza Giles<<<<<< Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Niece<<<<<<<<<<<< Gender: Female Where born: Bethnel Green, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Reading St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles County/Island: Berkshire Country: England
Household Members: Name Age Joseph Dodge 72 c1789 Bridport, Devon, England Mary A Dodge 55 c1806 Reading, Berkshire, England Eliza Giles 11 c1850 Bethnel Green, Middlesex, England
Marriages Jun 1855 DODGE Joseph Reading 2c 577 GILES Mary Ann Reading 2c 577
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8 Jul 2013 03:12 |
Census 1891 Living with widowed daur in law (Robert's wife?):
Address: 13, Loanda Street, Shoreditch, London County: London
GILES, John G Head Widower M 85 1806 Endorser Station Reading, Berkshire GILES, Elizabeth A Daughter In Law Widow F 47 1844 House Keeper Domestic Shoreditch, London
Son Robert's death seems to have been recorded as Robert Albert rather than Abbott:
Deaths Sep 1886 Giles Robert Albert 44 Shoreditch 1c 116
Seems to have been registered as Robert Albert at birth as well:
Births Dec 1841 Giles Robert Albert Shoreditch 2 403
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8 Jul 2013 03:10 |
Census 1881 Living with son Robert:
Address: 11, Livermere Rd, Shoreditch County: London, Middlesex
GILES, Robert A Head Married M 39 1842 Vellum Binder Shoreditch, Middlesex GILES, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 37 1844 Shoreditch, Middlesex GILES, John G Father Married M 73 1808 Vellum Endorser (B?b) Reading, Berkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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8 Jul 2013 03:09 |
Census 1871:
Address: Nelson St, Bethnal Green County: London, Middlesex
GILES, John Head M 63 1808 Berkshire Reading GILES, Mary A Daughter F 23 1848 Middlesex Shoreditch Envelope folder GILES, John Son M 15 1856 Middlesex Shoreditch Book binder
Can't make out John's occupation or marital status.
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Vivienne
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8 Jul 2013 01:10 |
Searching for any information/family of the above. John Giles b. c1808 in Reading, Berkshire, married Elizabeth Ash in 1834. They had a child John Giles b.1833 in Shoreditich. Elizabeth died in 1836 and John remarried to Eleanor (Elester)Lines in Oct 1836. They had 6 more children, Henry, William, Robert Abbott, Elizabeth E, Mary Ann and Eliza Giles. I have been unsuccessful in tracing any history/connections to my GG Grandfather other than the Census records to 1851.
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