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Marie Celeste, yes I've looked through Trove many times as well. A real mystery this one! Thanks for all your help. Janeene

Well, Rosalie would never have had to worry about calling her latest husband by the name of the last one!

That 1942 marriage seems to pull it together and indicates he was definitely a bit of a Walter Mitty.

Have you had a trawl through the newspaper archives on Trove? http://trove.nla.gov.au/

Marie Celeste thank you for all your help. I have done as you suggested and added Australia to my post. Yes, the names are interesting. Actually Rosalie (Carle) was married 3 times:
1. to James Crockett (who up and died)
2. to James Robert Hill (who turned out to be a bigamist!)
3. to Robert James Wright (who also up and died!

And we believe that Robert James (James Robert) Wright was also married before, in 1942, to Eileen Theresa Redshaw! I have that marriage cert, and on this he is a metallurgist, birthplace Stakeford Eng, father: William Wright, mother Margaret Hogg, and fathers occupation: research engineer! GO FIGURE!

I have come to the conclusion that James Robert Wright may have had something to hide, thus the conflicting stories on all his official certificates!

Now, if you want complicated name reversals you should try my grandfather William Patrick x and his brother Patrick William x !!!

Janeene, what I'd suggest is going to your first post at the top and click "edit" - you can then get back to your heading. If you add the word Australia to the title then one of our Australian researchers is more likely to spot it - they often have access to records that we don't.

James Robert seemed to change occupations didn't he? A miner in 1927, an electrical instrument fitter in 1950 and a stores clerk in 1958. He doesn't make it easy for us.

Marie Celeste. Yes, that's them in 1958. Not sure why the name reversal, but think that may have been a fairly common thing...my grandfather was variously called edward william... and william edward...
Occupation when he married: electrical instrument fitter

Yes, it's certainly an enigma! Has us scratching our heads! :-)

Looks like Rosalie had been previously married:


Registration Number Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) District *

20748/1946 HILL JAMES ROBERT CROCKETT ROSALIE MAYFIELD
12524/1950 WRIGHT ROBERT JAMES CROCKETT ROSALIE TAREE

Note his name on marriage is also "Robert James"

Her first husband's given names are interesting ...


This is her in 1943:

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980

Name: Rosalie Crockett
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1943
State: New South Wales
District: Newcastle
Subdistrict: Mayfield

She's at 7 Maude Street with James Crockett, a lorry driver.
.....................................................................................................

and in 1949:

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980

Name: Rosalie Crockett
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1949
State: New South Wales
District: Shortland
Subdistrict: Lambton

Still at Maude Street, no other Crockett's at the address.

Is this them in 1958?

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980

Name: Rosalie Wright
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1958
State: New South Wales
District: Newcastle
Subdistrict: Mayfield

Living 7 Maud Street with Robert James Wright, a stores clerk.

The name is shown as Robert James (and not vice versa) - that's also the way it's recorded on the 1950 death.

It certainly is an enigma, isn't it? A birthday of 12 January would fit that Morpeth birth (which covers Stakeford) - do let us know when you get the cert as we like to see loose ends tied up!

Meanwhile, will see if any other records available.

One other question - what was his occupation when he married?

Marie Celeste,

Yes, the photo matched with one the present family from Newcastle upon Tyne has.

His birthday was 12 Jan, according to his daughter in Australia, and the birth cert for James Robert Wright from Stakeford has been ordered just to double check the birth date against our JRW's birthday.

He married Rosalie Crockett in 1950 in Cundletown, Taree (Aust), and died in 1959, when his daughter was only 8.

Janeene, so is that the only corroboration that you have? Yes, the family from Stakeford did have a son that went to Australia - have you seen any photos of Sarah Isabella that her descendants had so you can compare them?

Do you know the exact date of birth for your James Robert?

As asked, who did he marry in 1950? (Just so we can try to work through all available records)

One of the unanswerable questions..........at the moment

In any case. there is no evidence to support the idea that any of these Wrights was a chemist...........................

Thanks everyone. Yes, it's the one at Stakeford. We know that's the one because James Robert Wright's daughter in Australia found a photograph of a woman with "Wright" written on the back, and we emailed it to the family of the 1911 Census Wrights in Stakeford, and they confirmed this was Sarah Isabella Wright of the 1911 census. The question is, why did he nominate these other Wrights from Swinton as his parents (on his marriage cert 1950), and how did he know them anyway, because he left for Australia when he was 17, and they don't appear to be related to the Stakeford Wrights. ????

What was his age when he married?

Not this one.....................

Births Jun 1909 (>99%)
WRIGHT James Robert Burnley 8e 181

1911 census


Person: WRIGHT, James Robert Address: 32 Leyland Road Burnley
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WRIGHT, James Robert Head Married M 42 1869 Coal Miner Hewer Lancs Burnley VIEW
WRIGHT, Fanny Wife Married17 years F 40 1871 Cotton Manufactur Lancs Burnley VIEW
WRIGHT, Joe Son Single M 16 1895 Cork Burner Lancs Burnley VIEW
WRIGHT, Maria Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Girl Lancs Burnley VIEW
WRIGHT, Susan Daughter Single F 8 1903 Lancs Burnley VIEW
WRIGHT, Sarah Jane Daughter Single F 6 1905 Lancs Burnley VIEW
WRIGHT, James Robert Son M 1 1910 Lancs Burnley VIEW
PICKERING, Sarah Boarder Widow F 68 1843 Lancs Burnley VIEW

Another scenario is that there are two different James Robert Wrights and wires have got crossed somewhere.

Who did he marry in 1950, and where?

The other possible scenario is that he was not 'Wright' at birth

The birth of the child on 1911 census...............but he was not from Newcastle

Births Mar 1910 (>99%)
WRIGHT James Robert Morpeth 10b 431

If there was no-one to contradict him, he could have 'enhanced' his father's details.........what did his father-in-law do for a living?

There is no other recorded birth anywhere near Newcastle..................

Janeene - how do you know that the James Robert Wright who married in 1950 is the same one that is from Newcastle?

ADDED: This death also gives the same parent names as the marriage:

Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
12759/1959 WRIGHT ROBERT JAMES WILLIAM JAMES ALICE HAMILTON

This looks like the one from the 1911 going to Australia:

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: James R Wright
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Birth Date: abt 1910
Departure Date: 13 Oct 1927
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Bendigo
Shipping Line: Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co
Official Number: 145603
Master: Captain R C Nicholl

He was a miner. Home address in England had been 7 Harrington Gardens, Stakeford.