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Please help me to trace a marriage reference

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Denise

Denise Report 4 Jul 2013 15:31

I am trying to find the marriage reference for Walter Pickersgill and Ethel Roberts in or around 1911.

I have found the following references which seem to match except for the letters attached to the reference numbers:

Walter Pickersgill's marriage ref: Jan -March 1911 Chorlton, Lancs Vol 8a p962a
Ethel Roberts's marriage ref: Jan- March 1911 Chorlton, Lancs Vol 8c p962

I am confused and don't want to have to pay out for 2 attempts to get the cert or to have to pay for a check by the GRO. Has anyone else come across this dilemma before? Any ideas what I can do, please. Thanks for your help. Kind regards, Denise

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Jul 2013 15:32

Look at LancsBMD...............

You can order the cert from them using their refs

Denise

Denise Report 4 Jul 2013 15:37

Thanks very much for your help and sorry to show my ignorance but where do I get that information from.

Denise

Denise Report 4 Jul 2013 15:49

Oh, I've just looked on the Lancashire BMD site and found what you were referring to. Thanks very much for your help. Just what I need.

Dea

Dea Report 4 Jul 2013 16:11

DONT send for that cert just yet - hang on for 10 minutes and I will be back !!!

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Jul 2013 16:13

BTW.........when ordering a marriage cert from the GRO, you only need to input the info for one party................

Dea

Dea Report 4 Jul 2013 16:17

This link should take you to a copy of the Parish Registry showing the marriage cert:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12454-47243-97?cc=1788853&wc=M9QK-PXT:n1495773050

It will save you having to pay for a copy of the cert.

Dea x

P.S. - Hope you see this in time!

Dea Xxx

Denise

Denise Report 4 Jul 2013 16:51

thank you very much. That's great info. I haven't ordered it yet as it would appear to be a lot more expensive to order from Manchester Register office than from the GRO. You're a great help. Thanks again Dea. Kind regards, Denise

Oh wow. I've just gone into the site. That's amazing. I can't thank you enough, Dea. Can I ask you how you got to the correct page please? :-D

Dea

Dea Report 4 Jul 2013 19:42

Hi Denise,

Sorry - I had to take Grand-daughter back to school for an Open Evening' to look at her years work or I would have explained how I got to this in the first place but had to dash out.

Anyway, it is a bit 'long-winded' but hopefully you will be able to follow it and make use of it in the future if you have more relatives in Lancashire to research.

Firstly I looked at Lancs BMD to find which Church it was at.

Then I looked on Free BMD to see which Quarter so I could narrow down the search.

Then Open up:
https://familysearch.org/search

At the bottom of the search boxes you will see a list of Countries - scroll down and click on:
United Kingdom and Ireland

Then click on:
"England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers, 1603-1910" - click on this.

Then click on:
Browse through 392,897 images

Click on Lancashire

Scroll down to see if the church is there - In this case yes - Gorton St James. - Click on this.

Click on the dates you want and then it is a case of trying various pages until you find one around the end of December 1910, then clicking through them one by one untill you find the right page.

This brought me, eventually, to the copy of your cert.

Glad it was of use.

If you need any further explanation, please ask.

Dea Xxx

mgnv

mgnv Report 5 Jul 2013 08:03

Here's the hit from http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1911
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PICKERSGILL Walter ROBERTS Ethel Gorton, St. James Manchester 56/5/370

Proceed as Dea says to get the right register.
You now want entry # 370 (the last bit of the LancsBMD ref), and at 2 entries per image, we would expect to get this on image # 185 (and we do - check the header just above the image at Dea's URL).
[The other bits of the ref identify the church as church # 56 - LancsBMD translate this for you as Gorton, St. James, and the 5th marr rego since 1837, i.e., the one that covers 1907-1912 for this church.]

Dea

Dea Report 5 Jul 2013 08:36

Thanks for that additional info mgnv - I didn't know about that entry number at the end and how to use it to find page so it will save me a lot of 'clicking' and a great deal of time in the future.

Dea Xxx

P.S. - did you see the message I left you on another thread somewhere yesterday about the URL shortner?

Dea x

mgnv

mgnv Report 5 Jul 2013 09:29

Dea - yeah, thanks for that - I've "watched" it so I can find it next time I need an URL shortener.

Denise

Denise Report 6 Jul 2013 05:38

Dear mgnv and Dea, You guys are worth your weight in gold. Thank you very much. Very best regards, Denise