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lancashireAnn
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28 Jun 2013 17:59 |
thank you Jacqueline
I was just wondering really how you have proved you have followed the right Casson's if you have no certificates to prove the parentage down the line
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Jacqueline
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28 Jun 2013 09:17 |
Hi LancashireAnn,
I am descended from Thomas Casson, born 1847, the son of William Casson, born 1821 and Ellen Alman born c1822.
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lancashireAnn
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27 Jun 2013 17:30 |
just to help clarify Catherine - which one of William's children are you descended from please
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Jacqueline
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27 Jun 2013 15:54 |
Thanks for the confirmation SAFC, that simplifies things a lot. I will correct my tree now!
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safc
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27 Jun 2013 15:50 |
hi jacqueline
william casson did not marry catherine standley
William Hunt, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 " Name: William Hunt Birth Date: 1833 Birthplace: Age: 24 Spouse's Name: Catherine Standley Spouse's Birth Date: 1830 Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: 27 Event Date: 08 Jun 1857 Event Place: Astley-Bridge, Lancashire, England Father's Name: William Hunt Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: John Smith Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02045-7 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 2148103 Reference ID: 25
https://familysearch.org/#form=historical_records
Marriage: 8 Jun 1857 St Paul, Astley Bridge, Bolton, Lancashire, England William Hunt - 24, Stripper, Batchelor, Sharples Catherine Standley - (X), 27, Widow, Sharples Groom's Father: William Hunt, Basket Maker Bride's Father: John Smith, Carter Witness: James Lowe; Samuel Nuttall Married by Banns by: J Richardson, Officiating Minister Register: Marriages 1848 - 1879, Page 25, Entry 50
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk
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Jacqueline
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27 Jun 2013 15:47 |
Thanks Potty,
I didn't know about either of those websites - I'm pretty new to all this! I started researching in 2008, but struggled to get further than what family members could remember. I'm having another go at it now, but all the codes and the numbers for looking things up are confusing!
I think you're right about the wives - must try and figure out where the surname Standley came in - perhaps that was a result of crossed wires!
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Potty
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27 Jun 2013 15:38 |
The marriages and baptisms posted above have probably come form this site:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
It has transcribed baptisms and marriages and is free. Another site that you will find very useful for Lancashire is: http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/births.php
this has BMDs for Lancashire (sometimes giving MMN before 1911) and is also free. It also ties up the partners in the marriage, gives the place of the marriage, ie the church or register office, and indicates if the bride had been married before.
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Potty
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27 Jun 2013 15:34 |
Jaqueline, it looks as if he first married Ellen, then Margaret Hamer who appears to have died sometime between 1857 and 1859 and he then married Catherine Marsh, a widow, whose maiden name was Pendlebury. But, I can't find a death for Margaret.
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Jacqueline
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27 Jun 2013 15:22 |
Unfortunately I don't have the marriage certificates - everything I know has been found through searching through records on GR. So I'm not certain that eveything is reliable.
Potty: I'm pretty sure that the record you found from 1861 is the right family - all the names of the children match up.
It's all the wives that are confusing - and his parents!
Again, thank you all! This is much appreciated.
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Jacqueline
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27 Jun 2013 15:17 |
Thank you all very much.
I am a bit confused - is there a third wife in there somewhere, a Margaret Hamer? There appears to be two wives at the same time, Margaret Hamer and Catherine.
Some records for William Casson have him born in 1821, others 1820 - how likely is it that it's the same William Casson? It doesn't seem likely that there could have been too many in Bolton at the same time...
I think Ellen Alman is a definite - thank you very very much!
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27 Jun 2013 15:14 |
Name: John Wood Spouse's Name: Mary Casson Event Date: 08 Jul 1846 Event Place: Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England Father's Name: William Wood Spouse's Father's Name: Daniel Casson Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00758-0 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1966482 Reference ID: P 94 No 187
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27 Jun 2013 15:12 |
Marriage: 7 Feb 1859 St Paul, Astley Bridge, Bolton, Lancashire, England William Casson - Full, Smith, Widower, Astley Bridge Catherine Marsh - (X), Full, Widow, Astley Bridge Groom's Father: Daniel Casson, Smith Bride's Father: Aaron Pendlebury, Stone Dealer Witness: William Hartley; John Cox Married by Banns by: Jos or Jon Geo Richardson, Curate Notes: Witnesses names hard to read so they may not be accurate Register: Marriages 1848 - 1879, Page 36, Entry 71 Source: LDS Film 2148103
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27 Jun 2013 15:12 |
Name: William Casson Spouse's Name: Ellen Alman Event Date: 27 Aug 1843 Event Place: Deane, Lancashire, England Father's Name: Daniel Casson Spouse's Father's Name: John Alman Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02960-1 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 2113072 Reference ID: 155
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27 Jun 2013 15:12 |
I wonder who this William is then (also a blacksmith):
1861 England Census about Margaret Casson
Name: Margaret Casson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Casson
Mother's Name: Catherine Casson
Gender: Female
Where born: Sharples, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Little Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Bolton
Sub-registration District: Sharples
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 139
Piece: 2819
Folio: 18
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name
Age
William Casson 40 Catherine Casson 37 Amelia Casson 16 Thomas Casson 13 William Casson 11 Daniel Casson 9 Margaret Casson 1
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27 Jun 2013 15:09 |
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Daniel Casson England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 5 April 1818 Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England residence: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England parents:Daniel Casson, Mary
Betty Casson England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 24 September 1815 Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England residence: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England parents:Daniel Casson, Mary
William Casson England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 8 October 1820 Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England residence: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England parents:Daniel Casson, Mary
Mary Casson England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 30 March 1823 Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England residence: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England parents:Daniel Casson, Mary Casson
Agnes Casson England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 28 September 1825 Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England residence: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England parents:Daniel Casson, Mary Casson
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27 Jun 2013 15:08 |
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Name: Daniel Casson Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Mary Jackson Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 27 Apr 1807 Event Place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00546-4 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 438188, 438189
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27 Jun 2013 15:06 |
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Name: William Casson Gender: Male Christening Date: 08 Oct 1820 Christening Place: St. Peter's, Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England Father's Name: Daniel Casson Mother's Name: Mary Casson Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03231-9 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 559177 Reference ID: yrs 1820-1821 p 60
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27 Jun 2013 15:05 |
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Name: William Casson Age (Original): 60 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1821 Birthplace: Bolton, Lancashire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Married Occupation: Railway Wagon Address: 20 Birch St Event Place: Gorton, Lancashire, England Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1341932 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 3902 / 88 Page Number: 8 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head William Casson M 60 Bolton, Lancashire, England Wife Catherine Casson F 56 Bolton, Lancashire, England Son Alfred Casson M 19 Bolton, Lancashire, England Son Walter Casson M 18 West Gorton, Lancashire, England Grand Daughter Ellen Mason F 12 Bolton, Lancashire, England
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27 Jun 2013 15:05 |
Name: William Casson Gender: Male Christening Date: 08 Oct 1820 Christening Place: St. Peter's, Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Daniel Casson Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Mary Casson Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03231-9 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 559177 Reference ID: yrs 1820-1821 p 60
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27 Jun 2013 15:04 |
Just posting for info
Name: Amelia Casson Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1845 Parish: Bolton le Moors, St Peter Parish as it Appears: Bolton-le-Moors Father's Name: William Casson Mother's Name: Ellen Casson Reference Number: GB127.L243/1/3/18
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