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OldYorkshireBloke
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24 Jun 2013 10:30 |
Thanks everybody for your help , very much appreciated, it's another piece in an endless jigsaw
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23 Jun 2013 21:31 |
Thanks for every thing so far.
Signing off - off to bed with a glass of red wine and the Sunday paper - will check tomorrow
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2013 19:52 |
parents:John Billingsly, Frances******************************
NameHenry Billingsly******************************** GenderMale Christening Date15 Mar 1733******************** Christening PlaceSUNBURY ON THAMES,LONDON,ENGLAND Father's NameJohn Billingsly Father's Birthplace Father's Age Mother's NameFrances Indexing Project (Batch) NumberC06789-2 System OriginEngland-ODM GS Film number577573 Reference ID
Jane's parents Henry and Sarah Billingsley had a dau Frances probably named after his mother.
spouse:Sarah child:Francis Billingsley**********************************
NameFrancis Billingsley GenderFemale Christening Date07 Jul 1782 Christening PlaceSUNBURY ON THAMES,LONDON,ENGLAND Father's NameHenry Billingsley Mother's NameSarah Indexing Project (Batch) NumberC06789-2 System OriginEngland-ODM GS Film number577573 Reference ID
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2013 19:29 |
O how about this then.
The writing is very hard to read but I think it may be Sarah Jane Clark.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henry Billingsley Name: Henry Billingsley Spouse Name: Sarah Record Type: Banns Event Date: 8 Jan 1770 Parish: Sunbury on Thames St Mary Borough: Parishes Not in a Borough County: Surrey Register Type: Parish Register
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2013 19:12 |
Well found. My hubby came back in from ringing so stopped me playing!!!!!!
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OldYorkshireBloke
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23 Jun 2013 16:47 |
Thanks Alviegal
Yes that's him and parents. I have the records forhis parents and siblings - was researching the children of Samuel and Milly and that's where I hit a brick wall with John
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alviegal
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23 Jun 2013 16:29 |
From freereg. ??
County Surrey Place Byfleet Church St Mary RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 08 Mar 1795 Forename John Sex M FatherForename Samuel MotherForename Milly FatherSurname SHEPPARD MotherSurname Abode FatherOccupation Notes FileNumber 23267
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OldYorkshireBloke
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23 Jun 2013 16:21 |
Thanks Alviegal
The second possible death for a John Shepherd in 1859 looks very interesting and is closer on age to his birth in 1795
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alviegal
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23 Jun 2013 16:11 |
The deaths you have found.
Surrey, England, Burials, 1813-1987 about Jane Shepherd Name: Jane Shepherd Birth Year: abt 1783 Burial Age: 76 Burial Date: 31 Dec 1859 Archive Provided Parish: Walton on Thames, St Mary Parish as it Appears: Walton On Thames Reference Number: 2381/5/2
Surrey, England, Burials, 1813-1987 about John Shepherd Name: John Shepherd Birth Year: abt 1796 Burial Age: 63 Burial Date: 18 Jan 1859 Archive Provided Parish: Walton on Thames, St Mary Parish as it Appears: Walton On Thames Reference Number: 2381/5/2
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Surrey, England, Burials, 1813-1987 about John Shepherd Name: John Shepherd Birth Year: abt 1797 Burial Age: 56 Burial Date: 10 Apr 1853 Archive Provided Parish: Walton On Thames, St Mary Parish as it Appears: Walton On Thames Reference Number: 2381/5/1
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alviegal
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23 Jun 2013 15:51 |
Siblings perhaps?
1) Henry Billingsley Baptism 5 Aug 1772 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex Henry Billingsley, Sarah Billingsley
Henry Billingsley aged 15 Burial 9 Oct 1787 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex
2) Thomas Billingsley Baptism 19 Sep 1777 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex Henry Billingsley, Sarah Billingsley
Thomas Billingsley an infant Burial 24 Sep 1777 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex
3) Frances Billingsley Baptism 6 Jun 1782 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex Henry Billingsley, Sarah Billingsley
Frances Billingsley aged 5 Burial 9 Oct 1787 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex
Henry and Frances buried the same day. How sad. :-(
Henry Billingsley aged 66 Burial 31 Mar 1799 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex
Sarah Billingsley aged 67 Burial 25 Feb 1807 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex
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alviegal
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23 Jun 2013 15:26 |
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London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Jane Billingsley Name: Jane Billingsley Baptism Date: 3 Feb 1786 Parish: St Mary, Sunbury on Thames County: Middlesex Borough: Richmond upon Thames Parent(s): Henry Billingsley, Sarah Billingsley Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Jane Billingsley Name: Jane Billingsley Baptism Date: 4 Feb 1786 (says born on 3 Feb 1786) Parish: St Mary, Sunbury on Thames County: Middlesex Borough: Richmond upon Thames Parent(s): Henry Billingsley, Sarah Billingsley Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
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alviegal
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23 Jun 2013 15:19 |
That marriage looks pretty good Mel. Both of the parish of Sunbury.
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OldYorkshireBloke
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23 Jun 2013 15:13 |
Thanks Mel these refs look interesting particularly the Baptism I think I have also solved the 1841 census problem - just found these two references relating to 1841 census Walton on Thames -
ROOTSCHAT Context : quick reference HO Records created or inherited by the Home Office, Ministry of Home Security, and related bodies HO 107 Census Returns Subseries within HO 107 1841 Census Subsubseries within HO 107 SURREY HO 107/1071 Surrey Record Summary Scope and content PARISH: Walton-upon-Thames Hamlet: ( 8 ) Hersham. MISSING Covering dates 1841 SURREY HISTORY SOCIETY There are no major gaps in the surviving Surrey censuses. Three parishes are missing from the 1841 census, however: Malden, Walton on Thames and Weybridge. Although no whole parishes are missing
So if they were there in 1841 I am not going to find any records
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23 Jun 2013 15:09 |
Have you looked at the image - I know Jane is transcribed as 65, but I would doubt the transcription - it looks more like 45 to me or could even be 25 but I doubt it.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2013 15:00 |
Poss???????????????????
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Shephard Name: John Shephard Spouse Name: Jane Billingsley Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 7 Jun 1823 Parish: Hanworth Borough: Hounslow Register Type: Parish Register
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OldYorkshireBloke
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23 Jun 2013 14:56 |
Thanks for looking - I'm having the same problems. On Google maps there is a Broad Close near Hersham Station Walton on Thames, I also found reference to a Rural Sanitary Authority agreement with farmer to deposit refuse and night soil on land at Broad Lane, Hersham, Walton on Thames, 1889 - so I think this is the location
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2013 14:56 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Mary Ann Shepherd Name: Mary Ann Shepherd Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 17 Oct 1824 Father's Name: John Shepherd Mother's Name: Jane Shepherd Parish or Poor Law Union: Laleham County: Surrey Register Type: Parish Registers
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23 Jun 2013 14:47 |
I've looked on ancestry as well, and am coming up with zilch as well.
You say you can't find a marriage for them - would it be a possibility that they were recently married and John was a widow and had a different wife in 1841?
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23 Jun 2013 14:42 |
Sorry, OYB, not seeing them. I wonder if they are off on Ag LAb travels somewhere.
Have tried to do an address search but there does not appear to be a Broad Lane in the area 1841 and FMP doesn't like Walton on Thames at all!
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23 Jun 2013 13:34 |
1851 for reference only
1851 census transcription details for: Broad Lane, Walton On Thames
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1593 Folio: 30 Page: 16 Reg. District: Chertsey Sub District: Parish: Walton on Thames Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Broad Lane, Walton On Thames County: Surrey Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born SHEPHERD, John Head Married M 55 1796 Ag Lab Byfleet, Surrey SHEPHERD, Jane Wife Married F 65 1786 Sunbury, Middlesex SHEPHERD, Mary Daur Unmarried F 26 1825 Empld At Paper Mills Laleham, Surrey
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