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I have John Shepherd born 1795 Byfleet Surrey on the 1851 census with his wife Jane born c1786 Sunbury Middlesex and daughter Mary born c1825 Laleham Surrey. On the 1851 census they are resident Broad Lane Walton on Thames Surrey.
I also have death/burial records in Chertsey District/ Walton on Thames for a John Shepherd in 1853 age 56 and a Jane Shepherd in 1859 age 76

Despite several attempts I have been unable to find a marriage record or locate them on the 1841 census and wondered if anyone would be kind enough to have a look with a fresh pair of eyes
Many Thanks

1851 for reference only

1851 census transcription details for: Broad Lane, Walton On Thames

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1593
Folio: 30
Page: 16
Reg. District: Chertsey
Sub District:
Parish: Walton on Thames
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Broad Lane, Walton On Thames
County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SHEPHERD, John Head Married M 55 1796 Ag Lab Byfleet, Surrey
SHEPHERD, Jane Wife Married F 65 1786 Sunbury, Middlesex
SHEPHERD, Mary Daur Unmarried F 26 1825 Empld At Paper Mills Laleham, Surrey

Sorry, OYB, not seeing them. I wonder if they are off on Ag LAb travels somewhere.

Have tried to do an address search but there does not appear to be a Broad Lane in the area 1841 and FMP doesn't like Walton on Thames at all!

I've looked on ancestry as well, and am coming up with zilch as well.

You say you can't find a marriage for them - would it be a possibility that they were recently married and John was a widow and had a different wife in 1841?

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Mary Ann Shepherd
Name: Mary Ann Shepherd
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Oct 1824
Father's Name: John Shepherd
Mother's Name: Jane Shepherd
Parish or Poor Law Union: Laleham
County: Surrey
Register Type: Parish Registers

Thanks for looking - I'm having the same problems.
On Google maps there is a Broad Close near Hersham Station Walton on Thames, I also found reference to a Rural Sanitary Authority agreement with farmer to deposit refuse and night soil on land at Broad Lane, Hersham, Walton on Thames, 1889 - so I think this is the location

regards

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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Shephard
Name: John Shephard
Spouse Name: Jane Billingsley
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Jun 1823
Parish: Hanworth
Borough: Hounslow
Register Type: Parish Register

Have you looked at the image - I know Jane is transcribed as 65, but I would doubt the transcription - it looks more like 45 to me or could even be 25 but I doubt it.

Thanks Mel
these refs look interesting particularly the Baptism
I think I have also solved the 1841 census problem - just found these two references relating to 1841 census Walton on Thames -

ROOTSCHAT
Context : quick reference
HO Records created or inherited by the Home Office, Ministry of Home Security, and related bodies
HO 107 Census Returns Subseries within HO 107 1841 Census Subsubseries within HO 107 SURREY
HO 107/1071 Surrey
Record Summary
Scope and content PARISH: Walton-upon-Thames Hamlet: ( 8 ) Hersham. MISSING Covering dates 1841

SURREY HISTORY SOCIETY
There are no major gaps in the surviving Surrey censuses. Three parishes are missing from the 1841 census, however: Malden, Walton on Thames and Weybridge. Although no whole parishes are missing

So if they were there in 1841 I am not going to find any records

That marriage looks pretty good Mel. Both of the parish of Sunbury.

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London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Jane Billingsley
Name: Jane Billingsley
Baptism Date: 3 Feb 1786
Parish: St Mary, Sunbury on Thames
County: Middlesex
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Parent(s): Henry Billingsley,
Sarah Billingsley
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register



London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Jane Billingsley
Name: Jane Billingsley
Baptism Date: 4 Feb 1786 (says born on 3 Feb 1786)
Parish: St Mary, Sunbury on Thames
County: Middlesex
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Parent(s): Henry Billingsley,
Sarah Billingsley
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Siblings perhaps?


1) Henry Billingsley Baptism 5 Aug 1772 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex Henry Billingsley,
Sarah Billingsley



Henry Billingsley aged 15 Burial 9 Oct 1787 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex


2) Thomas Billingsley Baptism 19 Sep 1777 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex Henry Billingsley,
Sarah Billingsley


Thomas Billingsley an infant Burial 24 Sep 1777 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex


3) Frances Billingsley Baptism 6 Jun 1782 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex Henry Billingsley,
Sarah Billingsley


Frances Billingsley aged 5 Burial 9 Oct 1787 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex


Henry and Frances buried the same day. How sad. :-(



Henry Billingsley aged 66 Burial 31 Mar 1799 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex


Sarah Billingsley aged 67 Burial 25 Feb 1807 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex

The deaths you have found.


Surrey, England, Burials, 1813-1987 about Jane Shepherd
Name: Jane Shepherd
Birth Year: abt 1783
Burial Age: 76
Burial Date: 31 Dec 1859
Archive Provided Parish: Walton on Thames, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Walton On Thames
Reference Number: 2381/5/2




Surrey, England, Burials, 1813-1987 about John Shepherd
Name: John Shepherd
Birth Year: abt 1796
Burial Age: 63
Burial Date: 18 Jan 1859
Archive Provided Parish: Walton on Thames, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Walton On Thames
Reference Number: 2381/5/2


or



Surrey, England, Burials, 1813-1987 about John Shepherd
Name: John Shepherd
Birth Year: abt 1797
Burial Age: 56
Burial Date: 10 Apr 1853
Archive Provided Parish: Walton On Thames, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Walton On Thames
Reference Number: 2381/5/1

Thanks Alviegal

The second possible death for a John Shepherd in 1859 looks very interesting and is closer on age to his birth in 1795

regards

From freereg. ??

County Surrey
Place Byfleet
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 08 Mar 1795
Forename John
Sex M
FatherForename Samuel
MotherForename Milly
FatherSurname SHEPPARD
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 23267

Thanks Alviegal

Yes that's him and parents. I have the records forhis parents and siblings - was researching the children of Samuel and Milly and that's where I hit a brick wall with John

Well found. My hubby came back in from ringing so stopped me playing!!!!!!

O how about this then.

The writing is very hard to read but I think it may be Sarah Jane Clark.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henry Billingsley
Name: Henry Billingsley
Spouse Name: Sarah
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 8 Jan 1770
Parish: Sunbury on Thames St Mary
Borough: Parishes Not in a Borough
County: Surrey
Register Type: Parish Register

parents:John Billingsly, Frances******************************

NameHenry Billingsly********************************
GenderMale
Christening Date15 Mar 1733********************
Christening PlaceSUNBURY ON THAMES,LONDON,ENGLAND

Father's NameJohn Billingsly
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's NameFrances

Indexing Project (Batch) NumberC06789-2
System OriginEngland-ODM
GS Film number577573
Reference ID

Jane's parents Henry and Sarah Billingsley had a dau Frances probably named after his mother.

spouse:Sarah
child:Francis Billingsley**********************************

NameFrancis Billingsley
GenderFemale
Christening Date07 Jul 1782
Christening PlaceSUNBURY ON THAMES,LONDON,ENGLAND

Father's NameHenry Billingsley

Mother's NameSarah

Indexing Project (Batch) NumberC06789-2
System OriginEngland-ODM
GS Film number577573
Reference ID