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I've been trying for almost two years to find birth details of my Irish Great x Grandfather Robert Rozzell born c1799 as I would love to visit the County of his birth. Over recent months, I've successfully identified others with the same unusual surname also born in Ireland and living in the same town of St. Helens around the same time. Unfortunately, I can't find birth details of any of these either and hope that now that I have a number of people who are probably related, someone on the Board may be able to help/advise me. The people I am confident must be related to Robert are - Lawrence Rozzell born c1796 who at one time lived next door to him, James Rozzell/Rossell born 1833, and two other Roberts, these being Robert Russel born 1821 and Robert Rozzell born 1841, who in 1861 was boarding with a daughter of Great x 3 Grandfather Robert. Another possibility is John Rozelle born 1801 who I found was in Kirkdale Gaol in 1841!
I have found Rozzells in County Wicklow, but variants of that surname, especially with the first name Robert, appears to be more prevalent in Co. Antrim. This is my final attempt and I will then admit defeat.

Have you searched trees at top of page to see if anyone else is researching the same family. Good luck

Thank you Mark. Good tip as I hadn't, but have now and sadly, no luck.

Name: John Rozzel

Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Lennox
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 11 Dec 1853
Event Place: St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Lawrence Rozzel <<<<<<<
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Lennox
Marital Status: Single
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Spouse's Marital Status: Single

Wow Mark! Thank you so much for this. I thought I'd found everything that was available in England and then you turn up something new. On my tree, I have this John as son of Robert my Great x 3 Grandfather! Your help is very much appreciated.
Regards from Lynn.

Message for Mark. Have revisited my tree and now am thoroughly confused. I have a marriage between John Rozzel and Elizabeth Cheshire Oct-Dec 1853 fathers name Robert Rozzell. Could it be possible that both Robert and Lawrence each had a son named John who both married women called Elizabeth in the same time period??!! All seems very odd.

Hello Lynn,

Looking at freebmd, I was surprised to see just how many Rozzell's have been registered since 1837. It looks as though your Lawrence died in 1865.


There is only one marriage listed between 1845 - 1860 for a John Rozzell and an Elizabeth - and that is the one you have.


Loughborough, West Derby and Portsea seem to have pockets of those with the name but, there are others from many different parts of the country.

Hello Cynthia,

I believe you've helped me before, so thank you once again, especially for clarifying the John/Elizabeth marriage. I'm not clear now how I got this wrong. What I'm finding very confusing is that John Rozzell born in 1833 is definitely recorded as the son of Robert Rozzell, so I can't figure out why his father would be named as Lawrence on his marriage to Elizabeth Lennox.
I'll take a look at freebmd to check out the Rozzells. I suspect that I may have most of the post 1837 ones but just can't find the information I need on those born in Ireland.

Kind regards
Lynn