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Reggie, there were 8 children listed on the 1911 census...

I C&P'd what you posted...................

But, as you will have realised, I did manage to work out what you meant..........

The 1911 census will tell you how many children William and Mary had had by then. It is only viewable on scotlandspeople.

No!! William Robertson and Mary Ann Mcrae....

Your post read (to me) as though William and Mary were called McRae


Also, William and Mary Ann Mcrae had several children but I can only see 3 listed, Peter 1898, Isabella 1900 and Helen 1901.. Can anyone see anymore..

Order the birth cert..........................and hope that the info is recorded

Not sure what you mean Reggie, Mary Ann Mcrae was William Robersons wife, and the mother of Helen, Isabella and Peter Robertson! Helen had a child born out of wedlock in 1921 Dyke.. Was trying to find out the fathers forename, he was ? Milne.. :-S

Your reference to Mcrae is confusing........................

1901 census


Person: ROBERTSON, Peter Address: Whitemire Village, Dyke

ROBERTSON, William Head Married M 24 1877 Sawmiller And Estate Labourer
Dyke, Elginshire
N/A
ROBERTSON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 30 1871
Dyke, Elginshire
N/A
ROBERTSON, Peter Son M 3 1898
Forres, Elginshire
N/A
ROBERTSON, Isabella Jane Daughter F 1 1900
Dyke, Elginshire
N/A
ROBERTSON, Helen Daughter F 0 (5 MONTHS) 1901
Dyke, Elginshire
N/A
PATERSON, James Head Widower M 41 1860 Gardener Domestic
Kinloss, Morayshire
N/A
PATERSON, Isabella Sister Single F 34 1867 Housekeeper Not Domestic
Kinloss, Morayshire
N/A
PATERSON, Elsie Daughter F 9 1892 Scholar
Nairn, Nairnshire
N/A
PATERSON, Margaret Daughter F 6 1895 Scholar
Nairn, Nairnshire
N/A
PATERSON, James Alexr Son M 5 1896
Paralytic From Birth Dyke, Morayshire
N/A
PATERSON, Isabella Niece F 2 1899
Forres, Morayshire

As has already been stated, you need Scotlands People.........for which credits can be purchased. £7.00 for 30. You can look on there for births, and also see the 1911 census

No-one can possibly second-guess the info on the birth cert................the only way to see it is to purchase it

Thanks Aileen, I think I have worked out that James Milne Robertsons mother is Helen Robertson, daughter of William and Mary Ann Mcrae who was born born c1900 Dyke Morayshire, who brought James up, lord knows where Helen went to. James was born out of wedlock and Milne is his fathers surnname, do you think it will say who his father was on the certificate or will it say illegitimate, I'm just wondering where the law stood about being listed as illegitimate in 1921..

Also, William and Mary Ann Mcrae had several children but I can only see 3 listed, Peter 1898, Isabella 1900 and Helen 1901.. Can anyone see anymore..

:-S

From ScotlandsPeople

1921 ROBERTSON JAMES MILNE M DYKE /MORAY 133/00 0013

Unfortunately the certificate cannot be viewed on-line as it is after 1913....100 years law means that it will be 2021 before this is on-line. You can order it through ScotlandsPeople .....I think they cost £11.....if you live in Scotland you may be able to get it from the local Registrar or book a session with them to view this and other records.....again they charge a fee...mine is £15 per hour. you can also visit the ScotlandsPeople centre in Edinburgh

You do not say that he stayed in Scotland ,could this be him leaving the UK.


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
about James M Robertson Name: James M Robertson
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1921
Departure Date: 19 Mar 1949
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Georgetown
Ship Name: Arakaka
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Arakaka' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Martins Bank Bldg Water St
Official Number: 181020
Master: Capt Armitage

Traveling 1st class to Georgetown British Columbia.

Address in Scotland
11 Kings Park Ave,
Cathcart
Glasgow...he was an Engineer

You should be able to find his mum s details if you have his actual birth cert.

You can't work back without it


It will be on Scotlands People

Do you have his birth cert? If not, you need it..................

Who were the grandparents who raised him?

James Milne Robertson born July 1921 Dyke, Morayshire.. I am trying to trace his family, mother was ? Robertson and father ? Milne. No first names, obviously illegitimate and brought up by his grandparents, who I am assuming was the mothers parents.. He was brought up at Whitemires Cottages Dyke Moray, and worked at Darnaway Castle Dyke at the age of 14 as a "gardener/butler"

This is all I have....can anyone help of give me some ideas...

:-S