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Thanks Maura

That's not from the PRONI site, but it gives ref. to look it up at PRONI

Any mention on Proni of Mary Ann? I couldn't find anything?

Found this bit of information on James, you could also lookup at PRONI
http://www.dia.ie/architects/view/3954

Thanks Maura! Thats definitely the correct couple.

PRONI in Belfast have a copy of the church records.

THis is James & Margaret marriage
Date of Marriage 10/06/1845 MAY ST Presbyterian Belfast
Name JAMES MCNEA
Address BELFAST
Occupation ARCHITECT
Age 30
Marital Status Bachelor
Father's Name JAMES MCNEA
Father's Occupation FARMER
Name MARGARET HUNTER
Address HILLSBOROUGH CO DOWN
Age 26
Marital Status Spinster
Father's Name JAMES HUNTER
Father's Occupation CLERK OF COURT
Witnesses THOMAS & WILLIAM HUNTER

Thanks everyone, especially for the details of James and Margaret's marriage, which I did not know. It seems odd that all Mary Ann's siblings were baptised at St Anne's , but maybe she was herself baptised in the Presbyterian church. I think she was the eldest of nine or ten.
Mike, yes that's my couple. Frederick W was my grandfather.
Maura, where would the records be held . Looks like a trip to Belfast might have to be on my wish list.
Chris, thanks for the link.

Registration didn't began until 1864 in Ireland, noncatholic marriage 1845. So your not going to get a birth cert. James and Margaret married in May street Presbyterian church Belfast 1845, so it is possible that Mary Ann was baptised there, but there baptism records are not online.

FRYD MARY ANN Burial date 3 Sep 1925 London Borough of Newham Location West Ham Cemetery.

(above on below link, credits needed for details)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Chris :)

1881 - Salford Lancashire

Edward Fryd 36 - Denmark
Mary Fryd 30 -Ireland
Emil McMea Fryd 10
Wilhelmina Beatiry Fryd 8
Edward James Fryd 7
Blanche Stuart Fryd 6
Frederick William Fryd 4
Walter Nash Fryd 2
Clarice Maud Fryd 1

From a tree

Is this your couple ?


Karl Edward Fryd

Birth Abt. 1845 in (Naturalized British Subt), Denmark
Death 19 May 1891 in Essex, England


spouse Mary Fryd

BirthAbt. 1851 inBelfast, Ireland
DeathSep 1925 inWest Ham, Essex, England

Thanks Mel, yes I have. It's Mary Ann's birth or christening dates which are the brick wall of brick walls! Death in 1925 says age 77, 1911 Census says age 62. Do UK Death Certs give actual date of birth, as Australian ones do?

Expect you have this.

spouse:Edward Fryd
child:Florence Margaret Mary Fryd

NameFlorence Margaret Mary Fryd
GenderFemale
Christening Date
Christening Place
Birth Date17 Jun 1871
BirthplaceAntrim, Ireland
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's NameEdward Fryd
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's NameMary Ann Mcnea
Mother's Birthplace
Mother's Age
Indexing Project (Batch) NumberC01236-6
System OriginIreland-ODM
GS Film number255825
Reference ID

My great grandmother. Parents James McNea and Margaret Hunter. Spouse Carl Edward Fryd. Siblings baptised in St Annes Church of Ireland, Shankill, Belfast. All other records found, but HER birth details elude me! Most frustrating!!