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Catherine
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5 Jun 2013 21:29 |
Maria in 1861?
1861 England Census about Maria Dormer Name: Maria Dormer Age: 74 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787 Relation: Widdower Gender: Female Where born: Baulkin, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Lyford County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address: Alms House
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Condition as to marriage: Widow
Registration District: Abingdon Sub-registration District: Fyfield ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 77 Piece: 730 Folio: 49 Page Number: 15
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1851 England Census about Mary Dormer Name: Mary Dormer Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786 Relation: Mother Gender: F (Female) Where born: East Hanney, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: East Hanney County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address:
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Registration District: Wantage Sub-registration District: Wantage ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 88 Piece: 1689 Folio: 30 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age William Dormer 48 - Farmer of 370 acres employing 12 labourers Mary Dormer 65 Mary Dormer 32 - Sister
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Catherine
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5 Jun 2013 21:23 |
Did Israel have any siblings?
Nom: Charles Dorman Sexe: Male Date du baptême: 09 Jun 1811 Lieu du baptême: WEST HANNEY,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND Date de naissance: 03 Jun 1811
Nom du père: John Dorman
Nom de la mère: Maria
Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre: P02024-1 Origine du système: England-ODM Numéro de film: 88485
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alviegal
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5 Jun 2013 21:23 |
This is copied from http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DORMER/2010-05/1272922298
John DORMER and Maria ALDER married 19 Nov 1810. The banns were read on 21 and 28 Oct, 4 Nov in Hanney church. The record shows Maria from Baulking. The same information has been copied into the Lyford register. In both registers, the groom is shown as Joseph DORMER. The marriage of John DORMER and Maria ALDER is recorded in the Uffington Register His burial is recorded on 18 Jul 1830 - Lyford There is a baptism of a Maria ALDER in Uffington on 20 Jul 1788, d of Thomas and Mary (Watts), which is quite likely her. Her burial is recorded on 16 Dec 1874 - Lyford. The burial record shows her surname as DORMOR, still living at the Almshouses The parish register for her baptism lists her as 2 weeks old The 1841 census shows her living independently in Lyford. She is shown as living in the Almshouses on the 1851 Census
DaughterMary ALDERbaptism 29 May 1808Lyford Note date prior to marriage and recorded as illegitimate daughter of Maria The register gives her birth date as 19 May 1808 SonCharles DORMANbaptism 9 Jun 1811Lyford Register gives birth date of 3 Jun 1811 Death Certificate gives date of death as 6 Aug 1849 in Brentford, cause Cholera DaughterHester DORMAN alias DORMORbaptism 30 May 1813Lyford This is what the register shows Lyford Register shows marriage to James Rutland, witness Charles Dormor DaughterHarriet DORMANbaptism 20 Apr 1817Lyford SonThomas DORMANbaptism 18 Sep 1819Lyford Date of death was 13 Sep 1819 in Lyford. Burial register uses surname of DORMAN, 2 days old SonDavid DORMANbaptism 27 Aug 1820Lyford Burial Register lists him as DORMER on 21 Jun 1891 in Lyford Marriage to Mary Anne ALDWORTH. Charney Wooten, Berks copied into Lyford from Hanney register. ALDER and ALDWORTH are interchangeable surnames in my wife's line, so he could have married a relation His surname is shown as DORMER on 1841 and 1851 censuses SonGiles DORMANbaptism 24 Feb 1823Lyford Burial Lyford on 3 Jan 1898 DaughterMaria DORMANbaptism 30 Jan 1826Lyford >>>SonIsrael DORMANbaptism 8 Jun 1828Lyford
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alviegal
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5 Jun 2013 21:19 |
1851 census transcription details for: New North Road, Ealing, Old Brentford Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1699 Folio: 237 Page: 31 Reg. District: Brentford Sub District: Brentford Parish: Ealing Enum. District: 2G Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: New North Road, Ealing, Old Brentford County: Middlesex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born ALLEN, John Head Married M 30 1821 Labourer Distillery Minchington, Buckinghamshire ALLEN, Ann Wife Married F 30 1821 Beddington, Surrey ALLEN, John Son M 3 1848 Brentford, Middlesex ALLEN, Susan Daughter F 0 (7 MOS) 1851 Brentford, Middlesex DORMER, Israel Visitor Unmarried M 22 1829 Labourer Distillery Lyford, Berkshire
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Catherine
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5 Jun 2013 21:19 |
This is the only person called Dormer living in correct place in 1841 that I can see:-
1841 England Census about Maria Dormer Name: Maria Dormer Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786 Gender: Female Where born: Berkshire, England Civil Parish: West Hanney Hundred: Ock County/Island: Berkshire Country: England
Registration District: Abingdon Sub-registration District: Kingston Bagpuize Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 24 Book: 7 Folio: 5 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Maria Dormer 55
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Marriage states that Israel's father was called John...............
...................and as Israel is with the Alder family in 1841, then this seems a bit of a coincidence:-
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Nom: John Dormer
Nom du conjoint: Maria Alder
Date de l'événement: 19 Nov 1810 Lieu de l'événement: Uffington,Berkshire,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre: M00677-1 Origine du système: England-ODM Numéro de film: 251844
.............maybe worth looking into a bit closer?
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Fredk
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5 Jun 2013 20:06 |
For information Possible death
Deaths Dec 1865 (>99%) Dormer Israel St Geo Han Sq 1a 207 Scan available - click to view
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MarieCeleste
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5 Jun 2013 19:32 |
The 1841 doesn't help:
ALDER, John M 30 1811 Berkshire - Ag Lab ALDER, Susan F 30 1811 Berkshire ALDER, Mary F 13 1828 Berkshire ALDER, Thomas M 11 1830 Berkshire ALDER, George M 6 1835 Berkshire ALDER, Giles M 4 1837 Berkshire ALDER, Hester F 2 1839 Berkshire ALDER, Edmond M 0 (3 months) 1841 Berkshire DORMER, Israel M 13 1828 Berkshire - Ag Lab
Piece: 24 Book/Folio: 7/4 Page: 2 Registration District: Abingdon Civil Parish: Hanney, West
Address: Lyford, Hanney, West, Lyford County: Berkshire
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Fredk
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5 Jun 2013 19:32 |
1841 Census Household Record Household Information Address Lyford Parish Hanney, West District Abingdon, Kingston Bagpuize Administrative County Berkshire Householder 1 Name John Alder Age 30 Estimated Year of Birth 1811 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Berkshire Birth County Berkshire Householder 2 Name Susan Alder Age 30 Estimated Year of Birth 1811 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Berkshire Birth County Berkshire Householder 3 Name Mary Alder Age 13 Estimated Year of Birth 1828 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Berkshire Birth County Berkshire Householder 4 Name Thomas Alder Age 11 Estimated Year of Birth 1830 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Berkshire Birth County Berkshire Householder 5 Name George Alder Age 6 Estimated Year of Birth 1835 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Berkshire Birth County Berkshire Householder 6 Name Giles Alder Age 4 Estimated Year of Birth 1837 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Berkshire Birth County Berkshire Householder 7 Name Hester Alder Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1839 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Berkshire Birth County Berkshire Householder 8 Name Edmond Alder Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1841 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Berkshire Birth County Berkshire Householder 9 Name Israel Dormer Age 13 Estimated Year of Birth 1828 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Berkshire Birth County Berkshire
Why with this family
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MarieCeleste
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5 Jun 2013 19:26 |
Possible marriage:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Israel Dormer - Labourer Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Elizabeth Fuller (full age) Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 27 Jul 1856 Parish: St Bride Fleet Street Borough: City of London Father Name: John Dormer - Labourer Spouse Father Name: William Fuller - Labourer Register Type: Parish Register
Neither married before and both living St Bride.
Witnesses: Charles Daniel Terry and Harriet Terry.
Everyone seemed able to sign the register.
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ErikaH
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5 Jun 2013 19:25 |
1861 census
Person: DORMER, Israel Address: Britannia Place, Hammersmith
DORMER, Israel Head Married M 33 1828 Labourer Hanney, Berkshire VIEW DORMER, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 30 1831 Labourers Wife Bradford, Berkshire VIEW DORMER, Thomas Son Unmarried M 9 1852 Labourers Son Bradford, Berkshire VIEW DORMER, James Son Unmarried M 8 1853 Labourers Son Bradford, Berkshire VIEW DORMER, Charles Son Unmarried M 6 1855 Labourers Son Bradford, Berkshire VIEW Piece: 24 Folio: 133 Page: 42 Registration District: Kensington Civil Parish: Hammersmith
He died in 1865
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ErikaH
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5 Jun 2013 19:23 |
If he married, and knew his father, the details will be on his marriage cert
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MarieCeleste
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5 Jun 2013 19:23 |
Hello Linda - how did you work back to him?
EDIT: Who did he marry? (If at all)
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Linda
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5 Jun 2013 19:15 |
can anyone help me find the parents of Israel dormer born 1828 in Lyford, Berkshire please as I seem to have got in a bit of a pickle :-(
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