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Hello - I am looking for information on my maternal great-grandfather - Cyril Brawn, born in 1912 in Newport Pagnell. I am trying to establish his parentage - mother's maiden name Ward and I believe he had a sister, Cicely, born in 1914, although so far I have only been able to find her birth record and nothing in marriages or deaths. I have listed his parents as the most likely I can find in the 1911 census but was wondering if there was any way to verify whether my suppositions are correct. Any help would be appreciated. :-S

The MMN is on the index.......look at freebmd for the marriage of the parents to find out their first names

If you can't find one, it may be because the mother had been married before.

The simple solution is to purchase the birth cert............£9.25 on line from the GRO

Welcome to the boards

connected?

Name: Gertrude Brawn
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 2
Birthplace: Newport Pagnell Bucks, Buckinghamshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Newport Pagnell
Sub-District: Newport Pagnell
Parish: Newport Pagnell
County: Buckinghamshire

Hello Liela, welcome to the boards.

The info that Reggie has given you is sound advice.

I would be very wary of listing any parents until you've obtained certificates to verify.

You probably have this info................

Death

Name: BRAWN, Cyril George
Registration district: Henley
County: Oxfordshire
Year of registration: 1978
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Date of Birth:16 March 1912
Volume no: 20
Page no: 2675

Marriages Dec 1939 (>99%)
Brawn Ciceley V Rayner North Bucks 3a 5936
Rayner Sidney G Brawn North Bucks. 3a 5936

One possible child.................whose details you can find on freebmd.

Too recent to post on here.................

Possible marriage for Cicely in 1939

Name: Ciceley V Brawn
Spouse Surname: Rayner
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Registration District: North Buckinghamshire
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 5936

I am just wondering if their father died in WW1 given the last birth showing is 1914

Possible second marriage ??

Name: Cicely V Rayner
Spouse Surname: Fry
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1959
Registration District: North Buckinghamshire
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 1157

RAYNER, SIDNEY GEORGE

Rank: Corporal
Service No: 6022851
Date of Death: 10/05/1945
Age: 28
Regiment/Service: Army Air Corps H.Q 1st Airborne Div. Defence Platoon.

Grave Reference
Coll. grave 1. E. 1-8.
Cemetery
OSLO WESTERN CIVIL CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Edwin and Ellen Jane Rayner; husband of Cecily Violet Rayner, of Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire.

Death
Name: FRY, Ceciley Violet
Registration district: Milton Keynes
County: Buckinghamshire
Year of registration: 1999
Month of registration: September
Date of Birth:4 May 1914
District no: 3261A
Reg no: A22B
Ent no: 155
DOR: 999

Thanks all - really helpful - poor Cicely - married Sidney in at thed beginning of the War and lost him just before the end in 45. The second marriage looks very plausible - I can't see that she had children from either of these marriages.

Thanks - I am pretty new to all this - finding it fascinating - going to look up the possible child now

Hi Reggie - just to let you know I tried to look up Cicely and Sidneys child but couldn't establish which particular person you were referring to. Can I just clarify that it is not the done thing to post anything about people who may still be alive?

Look in 1945 Northampton registration district

Only one I can find

Thanks GlitterBaby - very exciting!

That is correct, Liela...........it's invasion of privacy to post info about living people without their knowledge or consent.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1325910

I think until you've got the birth certificate it's going to be difficult to accurately trace any other family.

Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
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>>>>>BRAWN James Herbert Wellingborough 3b 274
CHURCH Thomas Wellingbro' 3b 274
>>>>>Ward Mary Jane Wellingbro' 3b 274
WATTS Eliza Wellingborough 3b 274



1911

RG14PN7992 RG78PN402 RD148 SD2 ED2 SN65
Reg. District: Newport Pagnell
Sub District: Newport Pagnell
Parish: Newport Pagnell
Enum. District: 2
Address: Osbornes Farm Newport Pagnell
County: Buckinghamshire


BRAWN, James H Head Married M 43 1868 Housekeeper To Corn Merchant Northampton Grendon
BRAWN, Mary Jane Wife Married
23 years F 42 1869 Not Know
BRAWN, Annie Daughter F 14 1897 Domestic Servant Day Girl Wellingboro Northants
BRAWN, Jack Son M 12 1899 School Wellingboro Northants
BRAWN, Auther Son M 10 1901 School Wellingboro Northants
BRAWN, Frank Son M 8 1903 School Wellingboro Northants
BRAWN, Francis Alston Son M 6 1905 School Wellingboro Northants
BRAWN, Gertrude Daughter F 2 1909 Newport Pagnell Bucks

I have come across these Brawns many times before - one of the sons was killed in WW1 and there is information available online. I always assumed they were cousins maybe of my Brawns because I had no way of establishing my Cyril and Cecily were linked as they were born after the 1911 census. I never knew that Mary-Janes maiden name was Ward though so am amazed. I will await the birth certificate of Cyril with baited breath and apologise to all for the multiple threads. Many thanks!!
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