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Arthur
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5 Jun 2013 21:27 |
Hi
There is a tick showing there however I can't seem to remove it
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Dea
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5 Jun 2013 20:23 |
You have put a tick on this thread which means that you have found the answer an do not need any more help - this is clearly not the case.
Please remove the tick so that more people will try to find the answers for you!
Dea x
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Arthur
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5 Jun 2013 20:03 |
Hi This is all confusing.
I can't find a marriage between Evan John and Margaret Owens around 1889 on one child's birth Cert she is Margaret John formerly Owens on about 3 Baptism certs she is listed as Margaret Owens. The Mrs Baker thing is confusing as if she is Margaret s mother she should Owens unless of course she remarried but I'm having trouble locating a marriage between a Baker and a Owens. Arthur
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5 Jun 2013 18:32 |
I have looked back on this and cannot find a connection at the moment!! - Only to the names Crichton and Evans but not to Owens !
Dea X
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5 Jun 2013 08:34 |
Baptism Forenames:John Evan Surname:John Baptism Year:1904 (written in margin, abt 10) Baptism Month:Sep Baptism Day:26 Place:Roath, St German County:Glamorganshire Birth Year: Birth Month: Birth Day: Fathers Forenames:Evan Mothers Forenames:Margaret Page: Record source:Glamorgan baptisms transcripts Data provider:Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru
Forenames:Thomas Everett Surname:John Baptism Year:1904 (written in margin, abt 11) Baptism Month:Sep Baptism Day:26 Place:Roath, St German County:Glamorganshire Birth Year: Birth Month: Birth Day: Fathers Forenames:Evan Mothers Forenames:Margaret
Forenames:David Morgan Owen Surname:John Baptism Year:1904 Baptism Month:Sep Baptism Day:1 Place:Roath, St German County:Glamorganshire Birth Year: Birth Month: Birth Day: Fathers Forenames:Evan Mothers Forenames:Margaret
Forenames:Mary Hannah Surname:John Baptism Year:1904 Baptism Month:Aug Baptism Day:25 Place:Roath, St German County:Glamorganshire Birth Year: Birth Month: Birth Day: Fathers Forenames:Evan Mothers Forenames:Margaret
(address for all, 13, Planet Street)
(Find My Past has above, but not seeing Marriages posted earlier to check)
Chris :)
1901 JOHN, Evan Head Married M 40 1861 Marine Engineer Cardiff, Glamorganshire JOHN, Margaret Wife Married F 38 1863 Cardigan JOHN, Caroline M Daughter F 10 1891 Blind Cardiff, Glamorganshire JOHN, Thomas E Son M 8 1893 Cardiff, Glamorganshire JOHN, John E Son M 6 1895 Cardiff, Glamorganshire JOHN, David M O Son M 4 1897 Cardiff, Glamorganshire JOHN, Mary H Daughter F 2 1899 Cardiff, Glamorganshire JONES, Margaret Aunt Single F 74 1827 Cardiff, Glamorganshire Piece: 4980 Folio: 16 Page: 24 Registration District: Cardiff Civil Parish: Roath Municipal Borough: Address: 13, Planet Street, Roath, Cardiff County: Glamorganshire
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Arthur
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5 Jun 2013 08:22 |
Hi
Thanks for that I'll follow it up
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Gee
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5 Jun 2013 08:04 |
Might be worth checking this lady out to see if she is 'the' Mrs Baker
1901 Wales Census Name: Elizabeth Baker
Age in 1901:55 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1846 Relation: Head Gender:Female
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish:St John Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Glamorgan Country:Wales Registration District:Cardiff Sub-registration District: West Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel:2 Household Schedule Number:32 Piece:4984
Folio:45 Page Number:5
Household Members:
Elizabeth Baker 55 Elizabeth C Baker 23 William Crichton 48
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Arthur
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4 Jun 2013 18:17 |
Hi All
Thanks for your time.I have them in the 1901 and 1911 census together in 1891 Margaret and baby Caroline are together but not father Evan. As to using other names, I haven't a clue. I thought I might get something from Mrs Baker and London Berdens but hasn't gone anywhere either.
Arthur
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Fredk
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4 Jun 2013 14:25 |
http://www.tourofuk.com/england/Essex/Berden
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Fredk
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4 Jun 2013 11:02 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%) Evans Evan Llandovery 11a 1277 Scan available - click to view Owen Margaret Llandovery 11a 1277 Scan available - click to view Thomas Timothy Llandovery 11a 1277 Scan available - click to view WILLIAMS Katharine Llandovery 11a 1277 Scan available - click to view Williams Katherine Llandovery 11a 1277 Scan available - click to view
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ErikaH
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4 Jun 2013 10:00 |
BMD certs can be ordered on line from the GRO
They cost £9.25 including postage, no matter where in the world you live
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Penny
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4 Jun 2013 08:15 |
tracking them back
1901 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4980; Folio: 16; Page: 24.
1891 Mum and 2 week old Caroline, mum is married, not sure where Evan is
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4388; Folio: 65; Page: 32; GSU Roll: 6099498.
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4 Jun 2013 08:02 |
Could she have been married using an alternative first name?
Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Evan Neath 11a 850 Mort Mary Ann Neath 11a 850 Owens Mary Ann Neath 11a 850 <<<<<< Phillips Philip Neath 11a 850
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Fredk
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4 Jun 2013 07:57 |
Just for information
1911 Census Household Record Household information Address 17 Croft Street Cardiff Parish Cardiff Town Cardiff Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms 6 Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN32083 RG78PN1845 RD588 SD2 ED16 SN30 Administrative County Glamorganshire Registration District Cardiff Registration Sub District East Cardiff Enumeration District 16 Householder 1 Name Mr Evan John Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married Married Gender M Age 59 Estimated Year of Birth 1852 Occupation Labourer Dock Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Glamorgan Cardiff Language English 0 Householder 2 Name Mrs Margaret John Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married Married / 22 Years Total Children Born Alive 7 Children Still Living 5 Children Who Have Died 2 Gender F Age 49 Estimated Year of Birth 1862 Occupation House Wife Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Cardigan Language Both 2 Householder 3 Name Carry John Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Condition / Years Married Single Gender F Age 20 Estimated Year of Birth 1891 Occupation Invalied Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Glamorgan Cardiff Language English 0 Householder 4 Name David John Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 14 Estimated Year of Birth 1897 Occupation Errend Boy Employed Y Working at Home N Industry Butcher's Place of Birth Glamorgan Cardiff Language English 0 Householder 5 Name Mary John Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1899 Occupation School Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Glamorgan Cardiff Language English 0 Householder 6 Name Mrs Baker Relationship to Head of Household Mother In Law Condition / Years Married Widow Gender F Age 69 Estimated Year of Birth 1842 Occupation No Employment Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth London Berdens Language English 0
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Arthur
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4 Jun 2013 07:38 |
Hi
These have been a puzzle to me for about 3 years.
What I know Evan John was born in Cardiff 26 Dec 1852 to Thomas John and Mary Jones.
He is supposed to have married a Margaret Owens in 1889 ( according to the 1911 census ) I can find a Evan John marrying in 1889 in Cardiff but no Margaret Owens. According to the census she is supposed to have born in Cardigan Wales about 1862.
I have the birth Cert of John Evan John their son born 15/9/1894 in Cardiff and it says mother Margaret John formerly Owens.
Also in the 1911 census at their home in Croft St Cardiff there is a Mrs Baker ( no first name ) aged 69 calling herself Mother in law to Evan John,it says she was born in London Berdens ( never heard of it ).
Can anyone offer some clues to me we live in NZ so birth/marriage and death certs. are not so easy to come by.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Regards
Jean and Arthur.
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