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pm from Lynne

"Just received Frederic's death cert. and yes it is Robert and Amy's son. How sad. He was the second child they had lost, not unusual I know in those days.
Have just sent for Ellen's death cert. She only lived a few months. "

Lynne

My tree would be useless to you .. I do not have the Dakins or Bollards in my tree..


What I have given you is from researching as per your brief in your opening post etc.

I was going to ask you if you wanted me to work forward to present day with your family and find a contact but as Jo has given you a number to call.. I will leave that avenue for you to discuss with her.

If you want me to search further for missing bits etc that Jo has not given you please ask.. and as you have sent me your tree I will take a look at it also and see if I can fill in any gaps.

I am assuming your tree is up to date..

and I will still see if I can get a photo for you of the grave at Karori.

Cheers Persie

Hi Persie
Just read the article about the ship taking the family out to NZ - Amy's younger brother Amos Bentham is also listed. Wonder if he stayed there as well. I thought I had him on the census here. I think there must have been Dakins there already as looking on the cemetery details there are Dakins buried much earlier than Robert and Amy.

Lynne

Hi MarieCeleste
Have sent for the death cert. for Frederic. Hopefully it will be the right one!
Lynne

Wow, thanks Persie
There is so much information coming through now I can't keep up. I have had some via Jo Gregory on Ancestry. As you say the Dakin/Bollards were quite well known. I've looked at the grave and the little wooden house. I would love to see some photographs; I'm sure somebody must have some.
Robert and Amy made a good life for themselves. It must have been incredibly daunting taking the steps they took for a better life. Many, many thanks. Jo has sent me a telephone number for one of the Bollard descendants which I will attempt to ring. I have a lot of information about Amy's family (which is also my family) so someone may find it useful.
Looking forward to looking at your tree.
Lynne

You see - add NZ to your title and you never know what will turn up.

Good info Persie

History of the Avondale Hotel



The first Avondale Hotel was built around 1860 on the corner of Rosebank Rd and Great North Rd but it burnt down. The second one was built on the corner of Wingate St and Great North Rd around 1870 but burnt down in December 1872. The third one was built there in 1873 and it also burnt down in 1888.

The fourth Avondale Hotel was built in 1889. It was made of plaster over brick and had kauri beams and woodwork inside.

After 1910 it was empty for a while until it became the Avondale Post Office in 1914. In 1938 it was sold and became a private hotel called the Avoncourt Hotel. It was demolished in 1967.

In 1967 a supermarket called Coopers was built on the site. The building was altered considerably in 1976 and became the Inner Circle Tavern (used to go there) Around 1991 the building again considerably altered and is now a group of shops including a bank and a cafe.

From me... Used to have a fantastic cafe and was really busy then the owners sold and it went downhill.. have not been back in ages will have to take a look.

Persie

We have a Bollard Avenue in Avondale and the name is quite well known.. This is about Louisa's husband.

http://timespanner.blogspot.co.nz/2008/11/r-f-bollard-1863-1927.html


Son - Richard Dakin Bollard born 1898, died 30 May 1916 in Waikato Hospital.

Robert John Bollard born 1892

Full Name
Robert John Bollard
Forename(s)
Robert John
Surname
Bollard
War
World War I, 1914-1918
Serial No.
33120
First Known Rank
Sergeant Major
Occupation before Enlistment
Farmer
Next of Kin
R.F. Bollard, M.P. (father), Tamahere, via Hamilton, New Zealand
Body on Embarkation
New Zealand Expeditionary Force
Embarkation Unit
24th Reinforcements (Second Draft) Specialist Company, Signal Section
Embarkation Date
26 April 1917
Place of Embarkation
Wellington, New Zealand
Transport
HMNZT 82
Vessel
Pakeha
Destination
Plymouth, England

Died 1963 aged 72... He married Marjorie Bessie Black Holden in 1923.

Aimee Jane Bollard born 1885 died 1886 aged 8 months

Marjorie and Doris... twins born 18 Nov 1894

Marjorie married 1929 Milton Rowley Aldridge .. she died 1976 (she was known as Madge)

Doris married Duncan Amadale Bennet 1919 .. she died 1975

Muriel Jessie born 26 May 1889 married in 1956 to Charles Henry Rea she died 1978.


There is quite a bit about this family re weddings and little bits of social niceties that they used to go in for.

Persie

Just had a look through the list of Louisa's children and one of them is Richard Dakin Bollard.

So will go through files and put it all together..

Cheers Persie

If I have the right Louisa (which is probably her)

Their son died in 1942 (memorial in Karori with parents) ..

Full Name
Harold Francis Bollard
Rank Last Held
Lieutenant
Forename(s)
Harold Francis
Surname
Bollard
War
World War II, 1939-1945
Serial No.
5/2300
Gender
Male
Occupation before Enlistment
Barrister and Solictor
Next of Kin
Mizpah Annie Bollard (wife), Remuera, Auckland, New Zealand
Marital Status
Married, 1 child
Last Unit Served
New Zealand Military Forces, Home Guard
Place of Death
New Zealand
Date of Death
23 August 1942
Age at Death
37
Year of Death
1942
Cause of Death
Killed in an aircraft accident
Cemetery Name
Karori Cemetery, Wellington, New Zealand
Grave Reference
6J. C2.
Memorial Name
Auckland War Memorial Museum, World War 2 Hall of Memories
Biographical Notes

Harold Bollard was the son of the Hon. Richard Francis Bollard and Louisa Bollard; husband of Mizpah Annie Bollard, of Remuera, Auckland, New Zealand.
Attended Hamilton High School, Waitaki College and Victoria University of Wellington

re Missing plane:

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP19420824.2.10&srpos

Persie... Will return later..

January 1876

Mr and Mrs Dakin and child arrived on the ship Carnatic.

You can use snipping tool and snip from paper or change to computer generated text but then you have to proof read it as all sorts of scratches etc get translated into gibberish.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS18760121.2.16&srpos=10&e=-------10--1----2robert+dakin--


Persie

Louisa died in 1952 aged 89...

She was cremated but there is a photo of his grave and her name is on there as well but it is not a clear photo.

This is in Karori Cemetery in Wellington.. I will be in Wellington last week of August and could go and take a look and see if I can get a clearer photo of it.


Persie

There is a Louisa Dakin married in 1884 to Richard Francis Bollard in NZ

They had seven children.

If you think this is her I can give you all their dates and spouses etc.

Persie

Lynne - if you google "Robert Dakin" "new zealand" avondale there is a lot of info comes up. Looked like he had a good life there and was very well respected.

ADDED:
Here's just one example, a brochure of walks in the area which has a photo of a cottage he built in 1886
http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/newseventsculture/heritage/Documents/blockhousebayheritagewalks.pdf

Thank you Chris and MarieCeleste, It certainly looks like Louisa actually joined her parents in New Zealand and that she married out there. Have edited the first post as suggested and who knows, maybe someone else can take the story a step further. Exciting!

Lynne

ACCIDENTS & FATALITIES.
Auckland Star, 1 October 1896

(relating to Amy Dakin, NZ Newspapers below link)

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

Chris :)


http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZH18880417.2.22&srpos=9&e=-------10--1----0dakin+avondale--

(above about Fire at Hotel)


http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS18850110.2.8&srpos=1&e=-------10--1----0louisa+dakin--

(Louisa Marriage?)

Hi Lynne - I think it's the first time I've ever had a match for someone on that gravestone site!

Outgoing passenger lists from UK don't start until 1890 so they would have already been in NZ by then.

I'd suggest going to your first post and clicking "edit" - you could then amend the title of the thread to include "New Zealand". People from all over the globe help on these boards so someone who knows about relevant records may spot it and be able to help further.

Good luck!

Marie-Celeste
You are amazing, perchance I put all the info I had into Google and found the photographs of the gravestone. It's now 1.00 am and I haven't got any further but it certainly looks like them. I've searched the passenger lists available but can't find them. I have put out a call for any descendents on the Auckland message board so hopefully I might get a response. It looks as if they had some relations out there as someone put up the rather elaborate gravestone. I wonder if daughter Louisa went out to join them? That's for another day.
Many thanks
Lynne

Robert and Amy's grave:
http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&fullname=Amy%20Dakin&grave=205874&personid=435107&db=205874

You can request a free image by email.

They also appear to have the grave indexed as Robert David Dakin (1836 to 1894) and Amy Rose Ada Dakin (1837 to 1896)

?? Possible ??

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: DAKIN, Frederic

Registration district: Chorley
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1861
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 8E
Page no: 287