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Joseph Garrard family

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Coral

Coral Report 23 May 2013 20:01

I am trying to find my relations Great Grandfather Joseph Garrard ( Garrod in the 1901 census) He was born about 1870 t0 1879 and died in 1930 in Romford, Essex. His Father was John. He married Sarah Ann Eliza Staff in 1899, born 1874 died 1933 also in Romford. They had children, Minnie Emily. Walter, May, Ellen Nellie, Doris Harriet, Daisy. Any help would be great please. Do know he was a Gas worker and was in WWII.

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brummiejan

brummiejan Report 23 May 2013 20:04

Hello Coral.
First thing to do is see if anybody else on here shares these relatives. 'search all trees' is in search box above. If you find any matches you can send a message.
When you say 'find my relations', do you mean descendents of the family, or something else?
Jan

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 23 May 2013 20:13


1901 England Census
about Joseph Garrod







Name:

Joseph Garrod



Age:

23



Estimated Birth Year:

abt 1878



Relation:

Head



Spouse's Name:

Sarah Garrod



Gender:

Male



Where born:

Hornchurch, Essex, England







Civil Parish:

Romford



Ecclesiastical parish:

St Andrew



Town:

Romford



County/Island:

Essex



Country:

England








Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:




View Image







Registration District:

Romford



Sub-registration District:

Romford



ED, institution, or vessel:

2



Neighbors:

View others on page



Household Schedule Number:

340



Piece:

1646



Folio:

32



Page Number:

54



Household Members:




Name

Age



Joseph Garrod

23



Sarah Garrod

23



Walter Garrod

5



Minnie Garrod

7


Mike *

Mike * Report 23 May 2013 20:15

Married in 1898 and name was Garrod


Marriages Sep 1898

Beresford Herbert Charles Romford 4a 700
Ellis Emma Romford 4a 700
GARROD Joseph - Romford 4a 700
Staff Sarah - Romford 4a 700

Coral

Coral Report 23 May 2013 20:16

Thanks for info and I mean Ancesters :-)

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 May 2013 20:23

1911 - ages don't match but he is a Gas Fitter from Romford

No 1 Parrs Cottages, Houses, Nursery Walk, Romford, Ex

Joe Joseph Garrard 30
Sarth Garrard 35
Ellen Nillie Garrard 5
Doris Harriet Garrard 11/12

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 23 May 2013 20:27


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Nellie Garrard







Name:

Nellie Garrard



Date of Registration:

Jan-Feb-Mar 1904



Registration District:

Romford



Inferred County:

Essex



Volume:

4a



Page:

558

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 23 May 2013 20:29



Name:

Daisy Garrard



Date of Registration:

Jan-Feb-Mar 1902



Registration District:

Romford



Inferred County:

Essex



Volume:

4a



Page:

583

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 May 2013 20:34

Could be either of these ( or neither )


Name:

Joseph Garrod

Baptism Date:8 Dec 1879
Father's Name:Edward Garrod
Mother's Name:Sarah Garrod
Parish or Poor Law Union:St Pancras
Borough:Camden
Register Type:Parish Registers
-----------------------------------------------


Name:

Joseph Garrod

Baptism Date:5 May 1879
Father's Name:George Garrod
Mother's Name:Mary Garrod
Parish or Poor Law Union:St Pancras
Borough:Camden
Register Type:Parish Registers

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 May 2013 20:42

What was father John's occupation ?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2013 21:21

His service records:

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

Name: Joseph Garrard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Age at enlistment: 42
Residence: 9 Albron Terrace, Queen St Romford Essex
Document Year: 1918
Regimental Number: 380257
Regiment Name: ASC (MT)
Number of images: 5

Will be back with more info when I've read through ......

ADDED:
Address should be Albion Terrace.

When he enlisted 14 May 1918 he was 42 years and 3 months old, a gas stoker.

He married Sarah Staff (spinster) 17 August 1902 in Romford.

He lists the following children:

Dolly b May 1915
Nellie b January 1909
May b May 1913
Mabel b March 1917
(all born Romford)

He got the British War and the Victory medals.

ADDED:
On those records he says he's never served before, but I've found another set of records ......

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 May 2013 21:31

http://essexpubs.info/1919RomfordDirectory/The1919RomfordDirectory2.htm

(above has 1919 address as below, if him)

ALBION TERRACE (Queen Street)
Garrard, Joseph, No. 9

Chris :)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2013 21:32

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

Name: Joseph Garrard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Age at enlistment: 39
Residence: 2 West St, Stratford London E
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 17224
Regiment Name: TR Battn
Number of images: 19

ADDED:
It's all rather odd! This set of documents shows his enlistment 14 March 1917, it also includes copies of the documents above dated 14 May 1918 where he says he's never served before.

It looks as though he'd been released for a while for munitions work (seemed they particularly wanted gas workers) and then transferred to the reserves. He did serve in France.

According to these records he married Sarah Staff on 04 September 1898.

He lists children as:

Hellen Nellie b 13 Feb 1906
Doris Harriett b 02 May 1910
Mabel May Ethel b 18 Mar 1913
Ivy Daisy b 07 Feb 1917

In the case of the marriage and births there are confirmation documents from Somerset House.

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 May 2013 21:39



He married Sarah Staff (spinster) 17 August 1902 in Romford
????

The only marriage for those names was 1898

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 May 2013 21:46

(think he gets muddled, 1911 says 3 children born, 2 living 1 died)

Chris :)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2013 21:51

I certainly do think he got muddled about a few things.

I've added more detail to my post of 21:32 re: service records.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 May 2013 22:11

Which site produces so much white space when C&P'ing? It makes reading the thread very difficult

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 May 2013 22:13

Coral

The man's age at death will be on the index...........so you can work out from that when he was born..............assuming the informant had accurate info

Please tell us what you are looking for...................

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 May 2013 22:15

Deaths Mar 1930 (>99%)
Garrard Joseph 60 Romford 4a 543

Only one recorded forename for Sarah when she married

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
Beresford Herbert Charles Romford 4a 700
Ellis Emma Romford 4a 700
GARROD Joseph Romford 4a 700
Staff Sarah Romford 4a 700

Coral

Coral Report 24 May 2013 10:30

Thanks everyone for looking up facts for me. Yes I know he has got muddled !

On his marriage cert it says his Father was a Labourer and he was 19 making his date of birth abt 1879. They lived at Waterloo road, Romford then.

It gets even more or a muddled as my Father was born to Doris Harriet out of wedlock in 1932 and adopted my Nellie her sister and her husband who were unable to have children. So he then became a Seymour by adoption. So my only true blood line is the Staff's and Garrard's on his birth Mothers side.

Same with my Mother whom was also adopted but we do know her birth Mothers name but that is all.

:-S