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Ackley/Gyles which one ?

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Sheila

Sheila Report 22 May 2013 18:25

Hello All, please can some one help me.

I have found two Thomas Ackley.
One was married to Elizabeth Ann Wheeley in 1813 in St Bartholomew the Great in London

The other Thomas Ackley was married to Elizabeth Gyles also in 1813. but am not sure where,I found it on Ancestry but my sub has run out.

I think the first Thomas Ackley who married the Wheeley lady could be "mine"

But . I would like to check and see if the Ackley/Gyles had any off springs to be able to follow them and see where they lead me to.
But alas..I cant find any at all,or anything else about them, from Findmypast

Could you see if you can spot this family for me please,

Your help would be very much appreciated

Many thanks

Sheila

Andrew

Andrew Report 22 May 2013 18:40

For ref


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Ackley
Name:Thomas Ackley
Spouse Name:Elizabeth Anne Wheeley
Record Type:Banns
Event Date:28 Nov 1813
Parish:St Bartholomew the Great
Borough:City of London
Register Type:Parish Register



This one 1822?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Ackley

Name:Thomas Ackley
Spouse Name:Elizabeth Gyles
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:26 Nov 1822
Parish:Guildford Holy Trinity
Borough:Parishes Not in a Borough
County:Surrey
Register Type:Bishop's Transcript



Andy



Sheila

Sheila Report 22 May 2013 18:45

Thank you Andy for finding them, these are the ones. I Got the second marriage date wrong ...sorry.

I couldn't go back to check...I should have put it down when I first saw it.


Regards

Sheila

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 May 2013 20:38

Have you seen this second marriage for Eliz Ann Wheeley?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Elizabeth Ann Ackley
Name: Elizabeth Ann Ackley, widow of James St
Spouse Name: Daniel Richard Lucas, painter of James St
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Jul 1843
Parish: Finsbury St Luke
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Edward Wheeley, hair dresser
Spouse Father Name: George Lucas, bank porter
Register Type: Parish Register


Wilhem? and Theodora Lawrence were witnesses.




London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Daniel Richard Lucas
Name: Daniel Richard Lucas
Baptism Date: 10 Oct 1798 born 7 March
Parish: St Leonard, Shoreditch
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Parent(s): George Lucas, of Hoxtonfield
Sarah Lucas
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register




London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about Daniel Richard Lucas
Name: Daniel Richard Lucas of Cavendish St
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1847
Burial Date: 1 Sep 1847
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St John
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Register

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 May 2013 20:49

Hello Sheila, how have you arrived at Thomas Ackley?

Knowing the connection might help us find the correct records.

Sheila

Sheila Report 22 May 2013 22:48

Thank you alviegal yes I have seen that marriage.

Its kind of you to post it up.

Regards

Sheila

Sheila

Sheila Report 22 May 2013 23:06

Thank you MarieCelest for reading my request.

I have an Harriet Ackley in my tree born 1827 born in Loughbrough , she married a Robert McClelland.
I have her marrage certificate and it says her father was Thomas Ackley a warehouse man.

On the marriage I found for him and Elizabeth Wheeley it also says he was a warehouse man.but the couple married in London.

Before my Ancestry ran out I found other children in the baptisms with Thomas and Elizabeth Ackley warehouse man,but I cant find Harriet Ackleys birth,I only know Loughbrough as her birth place from census,

I know her father was certainly Thomas Ackley but dont know for sure that her mother was Elizabeth Wheeley.

Regards

Sheila

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 May 2013 07:38

Not sure if anything would help, but a search of Harriett Ackley Leicester on google seems to bring up items...

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/1008531

(above is one)

Gee

Gee Report 23 May 2013 07:52

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Elizabeth Ann Ackley
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Nov 1816
Father's Name: Thomas Ackley
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Ann Ackley
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Giles without Cripplegate
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers


Going on the second name, it looks like Thomas married Elizabeth Ann Wheeley

Sheila

Sheila Report 23 May 2013 09:43

Thank you Chris Ho, yes I have seen this on Genes,the poster is a relation of mine.and still we are both left wondering.


Regards

Sheila

Sheila

Sheila Report 23 May 2013 09:52

Hello Gins thank you for your reply...this is a baptism I found as well.. it says mother Elizabeth Ackley...just wish it had given her maiden name so I could follow it up...and see if that helps at all.

This is why I wanted to know if Elizabeth Gyles had any children so I could see if their father was a warehouse man ...like my Harriet Ackley father.


Regards

Sheila

Gee

Gee Report 23 May 2013 12:00

Hi Sheila

Elizabeth Gyles didn't marry until 1822 and Harriet was born before that. This would suggest that her mother is Elizabeth Ann Wheeley

Edit: Oops, Im getting mixed up with the birth of Elizabeth Ann in 1816!

Sorry

Sheila

Sheila Report 23 May 2013 16:08

Hi Gins...you must be seeing your Magnet off and enjoying your Woodbines,..the snuff can wait til later

I am the same ..can I join the club ?



Thanks for looking Gins

Regards

Sheila

Gee

Gee Report 23 May 2013 16:32

Sheila :-D

Did the two couples have children (Except for Harriet, which we know about) that you know of?

Also, did the couples have siblings?

Sheila

Sheila Report 23 May 2013 22:09

I found on Familysearch some time ago

Henry Ackley 1828
Thomas Ackley 1828
Both born in Loughborough. Father Thomas

But I think the Elizabeth Ann Ackley 1816 in London is Harriets sister too.