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Agnes Frankland c1839.

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enna

enna Report 18 May 2013 18:06

Any info on Agnes Frankland (married name,) from Clapham Yorkshire please.

Thank you.
anne.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 May 2013 18:08

Hello Enna, what sort of info are you hoping for?

Who was she married to? Do you know of any children?

enna

enna Report 18 May 2013 18:13

She had a daughter named Isabella. They lived in Thornton in Longsdale.
Mark was one of the children and also a son named Emanuele which GR won't recognise as a name!!
Other children, Mary, Ellen??? (I think.) Thanks.
anne.

enna

enna Report 18 May 2013 18:16

Sorry Marie Celeste, I would like Agnes's maiden name. Got the rest of the family.
:-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 May 2013 18:17

For reference, is this the correct 1871?

FRANKLAND, John Head M 35 1836 Yorkshire Farmer of 93 acres, born Bolton
FRANKLAND, Agnes Wife F 30 1841 Yorkshire b Clapham
FRANKLAND, Mark Son M 3 1868 Yorkshire
FRANKLAND, Mary Daughter F 2 1869 Yorkshire
FRANKLAND, Ellen Daughter F 1 1870 Yorkshire

Piece: 4252 Folio: 103 Page: 6
Registration District: Settle
Civil Parish: Thornton in Lonsdale

Address: Fell Side, Thornton In Lonsdale County: Yorkshire

Children all born Thornton.

Fredk

Fredk Report 18 May 2013 18:18

Where is Thornton in Lonsdale

enna

enna Report 18 May 2013 18:19

Yes, I have that. It's the same family. Thanks.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 May 2013 18:21

Hello Enna, you may have that but we need to build up a picture of the family that we're trying to research.

I notice you've ticked my question as answered. The daft thing about the way GR works is that when you do that it marks the whole thread as completed and then people think you don't need any more help. To remove it, go to your first post and click "mark this as unanswered".

enna

enna Report 18 May 2013 18:22

Fredk, it's in Yorkshire.
Thornton-in-Lonsdale is a village and civil parish in the District of Craven and ceremonial county of North Yorkshire in England. It is very close to the border with Cumbria and is 1 mile (1.6 km) north of Ingleton and 5 miles (8.0 km) south east of Kirkby Lonsdale, and has a population of 308.[1] Its main claims to fame are the Marton Arms pub and St Oswald's Church, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle married his first wife at this church in 1885.[2]

Fredk

Fredk Report 18 May 2013 18:22



1871 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address Sawrey Place
Parish Horton
District Bradford, Horton
Administrative County Yorkshire
Householder 1
Name Robert M Frankland
Age 27
Estimated Year of Birth 1844
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 2
Name Agnes Frankland
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1840
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 3
Name John W Frankland
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1840
Relationship to Head of Household Brother
Occupation
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 4
Name William H Frankland
Age 29
Estimated Year of Birth 1842
Relationship to Head of Household Brother
Occupation
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 5
Name Walter Stead
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Occupation
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 6
Name Mary A Stead
Age 34
Estimated Year of Birth 1837
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Yorkshire
Birth County Yorkshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 May 2013 18:22

Have you had any luck searching on FreeBMD for a possible marriage?
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 May 2013 18:25

What about this marriage?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about John Frankland
Name: John Frankland
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1864
Registration District: Settle
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9a
Page Number: 13

Records on Page:
Name
John Frankland
Agnes Green
William Paley
Elizabeth Whitaker
Elizabeth Whittaker

You'd really need one of the children's birth certs to confirm.

Fredk

Fredk Report 18 May 2013 18:34


1881 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address
Parish Thornton In Lonsdale
District Settle, Bentham
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Householder 1
Name John Frankland
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Farmer Of 93 Acres
Birth Place Sladeburn
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 2
Name Agnes Frankland
Age 42
Estimated Year of Birth 1839
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation Farmer Of 93 Acres Wife
Birth Place Clapham
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 3
Name Mark Frankland
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Farmer Of 93 Acres Wife Son
Birth Place Thornton In Lonsdale
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 4
Name Mary Frankland
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Thornton In Lonsdale
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 5
Name Ellen Frankland
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1870
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Thornton In Lonsdale
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 6
Name Isabella Frankland
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1872
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Thornton In Lonsdale
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 7
Name Agnes Frankland
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1874
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Thornton In Lonsdale
Birth County Yorkshire
Householder 8
Name Emanuale Frankland
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1876
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Thornton In Lonsdale
Birth County Yorkshire

enna

enna Report 18 May 2013 18:38

Thanks all. Very confused now. Cannot find anything more about Agnes,
Husband was John born 1836. Slaidburn, Yorkshire.
Taken from FamilySearch.
One day I will get the hang of this searching lark!
Useless on FreeBMDs.

enna

enna Report 18 May 2013 18:40

That is it Fredk. Thanks.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 May 2013 18:47

1861 poss

Name: Agnes Green
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Green
Gender: Female
Where born: Clapham, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Austwick
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Settle
Sub-registration District: Settle
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 20
Piece: 3178
Folio: 98
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
John Green 60
Elisabeth Green 22
Agnes Green 20
Emanuel Green 17

Class: RG 9; Piece: 3178; Folio: 98; Page: 4; GSU roll: 543091.

But as already said you need some certs

enna

enna Report 18 May 2013 18:48

Marie-Celeste, just seen your marriage message. Thanks. Off to search with that. :-)

Fredk

Fredk Report 18 May 2013 19:01



Marriage Record
Name John Frankland
Year of Marriage 1864
Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Settle
Registration County Yorkshire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 9A
Volume Page 13
Spouse Match

John Frankland married one of the people below:

Agnes GREEN View
Elizabeth WHITAKER View
Elizabeth WHITTAKER View
William PALEY View


Edit
Sorry MarieCeleste

Did not see your post

enna

enna Report 18 May 2013 19:31

On a roll now! I think John married Agnes Green. Six children.
Cannot make out the last little girls name unless it is Elizabeth. There was an earlier Elizabeth but I know how they named some of their children after one who died, going to try and suss that out now.
Thanks a lot to all.
anne.

But, GlitterBaby might be right too! Ahhh. But the forenames I have seem to have been handed down.
Thanks once more.
anne.

Fredk

Fredk Report 18 May 2013 20:33


1901 Census Household Record
Household information
ddress High Street
Civil Parish Gargrave
Rural District Skipton
Town or Village or Hamlet Gargrave
Ecclesiastical Parish Gargrave St Andrew
Parliamentary Borough or Division Skipton
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Yorkshire
Householder 1
Name Agnes Frankland
Relation to Head of Family S In Law
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 27
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Nurse Domestic
Employment Status
Where Born Yorks Thornton In Lonsdale
anguage
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Cha Hall
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 32
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
where Born Yorks Thornton In Lonsdale
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Child ... Hall
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 0
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Yorks Gargrave
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name John William Hall
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 7
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Yorks Gargrave
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name Mary Agnes Hall
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 3
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Yorks Gargrave
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Waring Hall
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 43
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Carpenter
Employment Status
Where Born Yorks Skipton
Language
Infirmity

On the original Wife looks like Mary Hall