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Terence
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18 May 2013 15:12 |
Need Help.Unable to find William Robinson,b.c.1873,who married Isabella Hardy,b.c.1877.They married in 1897 at Gateshead Registry Office,Co.Durham.By 1901 they had 2 children,John,b.c.1898/99 and William,b.c.1900.Unable to find them at all in 1901 Census.Isabella remarried in 1904 to Martin Prendergast and the 2 children were with them in 1911 Census as StepSons to Martin.Any help would be much appreciated. Terry L.
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PricklyHolly
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18 May 2013 15:23 |
Hi Terence
It would help if we knew where they were born?
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18 May 2013 15:31 |
For reference......
Household transcription 1911 census Person: PRENDERGAST, Isabella Address: 71 Framwellgate Durham
PRENDERGAST, Martin Head Married M 43 1868 Coal Miner Hewer Durham City VIEW PRENDERGAST, Isabella Wife Married F 34 1877 Durham City VIEW ROBINSON, John Stepson M 12 1899 Gateshead County VIEW ROBINSON, Willie Stepson M 10 1901 Gateshead County VIEW ROBINSON, George Stepson M 7 1904 Durham City VIEW PRENDERGAST, Julia Daughter F 4 1907 Durham City VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 29974 Reference: RG14PN29974 RG78PN1733 RD551 SD2 ED13 SN100 Registration District: Durham Sub District: Durham Enumeration District: 13 Parish: Framwellgate Address: 71 Framwellgate Durham County: Durham
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PricklyHolly
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18 May 2013 15:54 |
I'm not having any luck either at the moment.
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Fredk
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18 May 2013 15:56 |
1901 Census Household Record Household information Address 3 Sodhouse Bk Civil Parish Gateshead Rural District Town or Village or Hamlet Ecclesiastical Parish St Johns Parliamentary Borough or Division County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Gateshead Administrative County Durham Householder 1 Name William Kirtley Relation to Head of Family Boarder Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 42 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Ware Potter Employment Status Where Born Durham Lumley Language Infirmity Householder 2 Name Mary E Robinson Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 27 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Durham Gateshead Language Infirmity Householder 3 Name William Robinson Relation to Head of Family Son In Law Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 27 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Corn Miller Employment Status Where Born Durham Gateshead Language Infirmity Householder 4 Name Barbara Stephenson Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 23 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Durham Gateshead Language Infirmity Householder 5 Name John W Stephenson Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 17 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Plumbers Apprentice Employment Status Where Born Durham Gateshead Language Infirmity Householder 6 Name Mary A Stephenson Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Widow Age Last Birthday 58 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Durham Gateshead Language Infirmity Householder 7 Name Thomas A Stephenson Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 35 Sex Male Profession or Occupation General Cartman Employment Status Where Born Durham Gateshead Language Infirmity
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PricklyHolly
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18 May 2013 16:17 |
Hi Fredk
I can't make head or tail of the census you posted.
Who is it referring to?
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Fredk
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18 May 2013 16:25 |
Possibly William Robinson Gateshead Durham
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PricklyHolly
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18 May 2013 16:29 |
Who on that census is connected to the family?
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PricklyHolly
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18 May 2013 16:37 |
Ah.....you edited.
All i got was Gateshead Durham.
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Fredk
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18 May 2013 18:05 |
I did realise after I posted he was single so not the one but left it anyway
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MarieCeleste
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18 May 2013 20:36 |
Also on: http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1325023
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SylviaInCanada
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19 May 2013 21:34 |
Terry posted on that thread on genealogy chat (link posted by MC above) ....................
the following information which MAY be of use in helping to trace them........
Thomas, from his marriage cert.it says William was living at 5,St.James St.G'Head. His Father's name was John Robinson also a Coalminer.Isabella was living at 10,Jackson St,G'Head.Her Father was Thomas Hardy,Brickburner.I'm fairly new to genealogy but seems strange not one of a family of 4 appear to be recorded in the 1901 Census. There was a third child,George,b.1904,(the year Isabella remarried ), with William as the father.Hope this is helpful. Terry L.
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Terry .............. this is why GR includes in its T&Cs that there should be no more than ONE posting per family ...............
having multiple posts requesting the same information means that people are looking at 3 different threads, and finding bits and pieces of the puzzle ........... and duplicating searches.
It makes it very difficult for us, the helpers.
I would usually recommend deleting the duplicated threads, and just leaving this one ........... the reason being that this thread has more replies form helpers.
BUT Thomas has provided some information on the thread on Genealogy Chat, and that makes it more difficult!
sylvia
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SylviaInCanada
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19 May 2013 21:42 |
For reference ................
this is Isabella in 1891
1891 Census
For reference ..... this is Isabella in 1891
1891 Census
Name: Isabella Hardy Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration District: Durham Sub-registration District: St Nicholas ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page
Mary Hardy 56 b.ca 1835, Durham, Widow, Charwoman Thomas Hardy 34 b.ca 1857, Durham, Son, Brickburner Edward Hardy 17 b.ca 1874, Durham, Son, Grocer's Assistant Isabella Hardy 14 Scholar Jonathon Robinson 32 Lodger
Address:- 14 Moody Buildings
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KempinaPartyhat
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21 May 2013 18:27 |
Terance is still looking for the 1901 census could anyone take a look please ...I have looked but cant find anything
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SylviaInCanada
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21 May 2013 21:02 |
Kemp
I don't think anyone has been able to find them ................... I certainly haven't
That's why we've been going round the houses trying to find alternate ways to possible get a link that could help with the 1901
I know I was hoping that another helper would pick up on the references I posted, and be able to see something that I couldn't see that would lead to breaking down the wall.
I can now only suggest the following possibilities ...................
a) mistranscribed so badly that they are hidden ............ eg, by being given the wrong surname (eg, being attached to a neighbour)
I did try searching by forenames only ....... including for children with only mother or only father, forenames only.
b) adopted a different name for some reason
c) got missed on the census ............. accidentally or deliberately
there could be a possibility that they were not in the country for the 1901, for some reason
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