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The name of the place in Kent is probably Horsmonden.

??? William's Place of Birth reads Kent, Horseman Dean, I think. No idea what that means.


1871 census transcription details for: Sumner Road, St Giles Camberwell
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 730
Folio: 109
Page: 8
Reg. District: Camberwell
Sub District: Peckham
Parish: St Giles Camberwell
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Sumner Road, St Giles Camberwell
County: London, Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ROWLAND, William Head M 48 1823 licensed hawker Kent
ROWLAND, Emma Wife F 23 1848 Surrey
ROWLAND, Bethany Daughter F 12 1859 Sussex
ROWLAND, Phoebe Daughter F 10 1861 Sussex
ROWLAND, George Son M 6 1865 Sussex
ROWLAND, Sarah Daughter F 3 1868 Surrey

I am so sorry but I have to leave my post.

Husband has arrived home unexpectedly.

I have Phoebe on the 1861 with husband Robert Smith!

All of the children are present and correct except for the surname. Included are the twins Bethany and Elizabeth.

Blue1

will check back in soon

Sorry about that

Looks like I'm talking to my self now,lol

Just thought I would add her children. All born Sussex

Amy Roland 1849 – 1898
William Roland 1853 –
Aaron Roland 1854 – 1856
Bathany Roland * 1857 – 1928
Elizabeth Roland 1857 –
Aaron Roland 1859 –
Phoebe Roland 1862 – 1942
George Roland 1865 –

Her husband William Rowland was born somewhere in Sussex! c1828 different on various census. He has used the name Robert Smith at least once and is refered to as Robert Rowland on on of his daughters marriage certs.


Blue1

Possible??


1861 England Census
about Phoebe Fuller

Name:Phoebe Fuller
Age:40
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1821
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:John Fuller
Gender:Female
Where born:
Horsham, Sussex, England
Civil Parish:Brenchley
County/Island:Kent
Country:England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Registration District:Tunbridge
Sub-registration District:Brenchley
ED, institution, or vessel3
Neighbors:
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Household Schedule Number:144
Piece:496
Folio:45
Page Number:27
Household Members:
Name
Age
John Fuller 40
Phoebe Fuller 40
Mary A Fuller 16
Frederck Fuller 14
Pheobe Fuller 9
Charity Fuller 8
John Fuller 3
William Golding 58

Andy

Thanks GlitterBaby,
was rather hoping it would be that William.


Blue1

Hi GlitterBaby,

Phoebe was born Abt 1831 Horsham Sussex.

Her first child Amy Roland was born 1849 Horsham and Baptised Lewes 17 March 1850.

Phoebe death was registered in Feb 1867 at East Grinstead as Rowlan and she was buried at Worth on the 13 Feb 1867

The name Rowland is also transcribed as Rolan Rolin Rolan Roland

That's about all I have.

Thanks for looking

Blue1

1851 William Carter married Tabitha Barham so rule them out

Do you know when and where Phoebe was born ?

Hi,
I have been looking for the marriage if there is one, of Phoebe Smith to William Rowland in Sussex c1849.

I have never found it. However William used Alias's,they were travellers.
On this Freebmd record there are five lads and only four girls.How do I find out which one of the Lads is married to Phoebe Smith please?.Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Does any one think it could be James Fuller? his entry also says Lewes &c
Thanks

Blue1




Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

Marriages Sep 1849 (>99%)

Barham Talisha_cumi Lewes 7 553 Scan available - click to view

Barham Talitharcumi Lewes &c 7 553 Scan available - click to view

Carter William Lewes & 7 553 Scan available - click to view

Eldridge Hannah Lewes 7 553 Scan available - click to view

Fuller James Lewes &c 7 553 Scan available - click to view

Gardner John Lewes 7 553 Scan available - click to view

Inch Frances Lewes 7 553 Scan available - click to view

Knowlton Anne Winchester 7 553

Piper George Lewes 7 553 Scan available - click to view

Smith Phoebe Lewes &c 7 553 Scan available - click to view