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Elizabeth Harvey in Kentish Town 1891

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David

David Report 14 May 2013 15:14

Help/advice requested in trying to trace Elizabeth Harvey b abt 1862 in Newfoundland.

Edward George Harvey (1838 Broadhempston, Devon - 1896 St Pancras, London) travelled to Newfoundland with several family members.

He missed the 1861 Census but shows up in 1871 Census at 25 Hanover St, Kentish Town, London. He has a wife, Margaret (surname unknown) and daughter Elizabeth (b abt 1862), both born abroad (I read return as North America Brit(ish)
Colonies) and 2 sons born in Kentish Town (His brother Edwin & family are at same address). Margaret died in 1878
1881 Census has family at 1 Sherbourn Cottages, Tottenham with a "stepmother" Elizabeth is noted as born in America.
1891 census has family at 32 Dickenson St, Kentish Town. Elizabeth is noted as born in Newfoundland.

I have nothing for Elizabeth after that. Edward George Harvey died in 1896

Any help/advice would be welcome!

David

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 May 2013 15:32

By 'nothing', do you mean that there is no marriage or death for the name?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 May 2013 15:37

For INFO

1891 census


Person: HARVEY, Elizabeth Address: 30, Dickenson Street, St Pancras


HARVEY, Edward G Head Widower M 52 1839 Carpenter & Joiner
Broad Hempston, Devonshire VIEW
HARVEY, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 29 1862 Dressmaker
Newfound Land B Subject VIEW
HARVEY, George Son Single M 24 1867 Carpenter
Kentish Town, London VIEW
HARVEY, William Son Single M 18 1873 Piano Forte Maker
Kentish Town, London VIEW
HARVEY, Fredk C Son Single M 17 1874 Piano Forte Maker
Kentish Town, London

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 May 2013 15:39

Have you looked in 1901 using only her first name and birth details?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 May 2013 15:42

Try this one......................

Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)

Haddy William Thomas Newton A. 5b 305
Harvey Elizabeth Newton A. 5b 305

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 May 2013 15:42

1901 census


Person: HADDY, Elizabeth Address: 34, Wolsdon Street, Plymouth

HADDY, William Head Married M 39 1862 General Laborer
Dartmouth, Devonshire VIEW
HADDY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 39 1862
Newfoundland VIEW *******************************************
HADDY, Margaret Daughter F 7 1894
Exeter, Devonshire VIEW
HADDY, Mary Daughter F 2 1899
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
HADDY, William Son M 4 1897
Exeter, Devonshire VIEW
HADDY, Ambrose Son M 1 1900
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 May 2013 15:43

Don't take it at face value................buy the cert for confirmation of father's details

David

David Report 14 May 2013 15:56

Reggie

Thank you for all that. I had misread the house number in 1891

David

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 May 2013 16:00

How does that make any difference?

David

David Report 14 May 2013 16:22

Reggie

I had tried using Elizabeth and Newfoundland only in 1901 & 1911 Censuses & also marriages with father as Edward George Harvey.

The Haddy connection is interesting. I have a marriage of Harry John Harvey b 1904 to Alice M Haddy in Newton Abbot. They may be related!

David

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 14 May 2013 16:42

Census 1901 posted by Reggie ,William Haddy was born Dartmouth.

Births Dec 1896 Haddy Alice May Newton A. 5b 136

Census 1911

Address: 4 Albion Cottage County: Devonshire

HADDY, Elizabeth Head Single F 43 1868 Domestc Dartmouth Devon<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HADDY, Alice Daughter F 14 1897 Barton

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 14 May 2013 16:52

Struggling to find William Haddy and Elizabeth Haddy in 1871, but is this them in 1881 working in the same household?

I was hoping to find they were siblings.

1881:

Address: West Hill, St Mary Church County: Devonshire

SHORT, Nicholas Head Widower M 53 1828 Farmer 120 Acres Emp 3 Labourers 2 Servts
S Mary CH, Devon
SHORT, Elizth Daughter Single F 24 1857
S Mary CH, Devon
SHORT, John Son Single M 22 1859 Farmers Son
S Mary CH, Devon
SHORT, Nicholas Son Single M 20 1861 Farmers Son
S Mary CH, Devon
SHORT, Albert Son Single M 18 1863 Farmers Son
S Mary CH, Devon
SHORT, Martha Daughter Single F 16 1865
S Mary CH, Devon
SHORT, Agnes Daughter Single F 14 1867
S Mary CH, Devon
SHORT, Parker Son Single M 12 1869
S Mary CH, Devon
SHORT, Charlotte Daughter Single F 10 1871
S Mary CH, Devon
SHORT, Lucy Daughter Single F 8 1873
S Mary CH, Devon
BURNETT, Richard Servant Single M 38 1843 Labourer
Deaf & Dumb S Mary CH, Devon
HADDY, William Servant Single M 19 1862 Labourer
Dartmouth, Devon<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HADDY, Elizth Servant Single F 15 1866 Servant
Dartmouth, Devon<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 14 May 2013 17:01

They look to be brother and sister here in 1891:

Address: 6, Lowesbridge, St Mary Church, Lowesbridge County: Devonshire

MAUNDER, Maria Wife Widow F 64 1827 Charwoman
Cornworthy
HADDY, William Son Single M 28 1863 Farm Labourer
Dartmouth<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HADDY, Bessie Daughter Single F 24 1867 General Servant Domestic<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Dartmouth
HADDY, Walter Grandson M 4 1887 Kingwill
HADDY, William Grandson M 1 1890 Lawes Bridge

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 14 May 2013 17:05

As you may know already, Harry John Harvey was the son of an Edwin Harvey :

Reg. District: Newton Abbot
Sub District: Torquay
Parish: St Mary Church
Enum. District: 27

Address: 5 Sunnybank County: Devonshire

HARVEY, Edwin Head Married 15 years M 50 1861 Retired Permanent Way Dept Gwry Broadhampstone Devon
HARVEY, Mary Jane Wife Married F 42 1869 Coldridge Devon
HARVEY, William Henry Son One Of Twins M 14 1897 St Mary Church Devon
HARVEY, Harry John Son Twins M 7 1904 School St Mary Church Devon
HARVEY, Emma Louisa Daughter F 7 1904 School St Mary Church Devon

David

David Report 14 May 2013 17:35

Thank you both for your help.

I had found 1881 Census but 1891 census throws up another name in my tree - Maunder.
Francis Maunder b abt 1850 in Harberton. Another lead to folow!

David

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 14 May 2013 22:43

?????

Marriages Jun 1880
Cooper Richard Newton A. 5b 276
Haddy Maria Newton A. 5b 276<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HEALE Ann Bext Newton A. 5b 276
Heale Ann Hext Newton A. 5b 276
MAUNDER Simon Napoleon Newton A. 5b 276<<<<<<<<<<

Census 1881:

Address: 4, (Warbery Road), Warbery Cottages, St Mary Church County: Devonshire

MAUNDER, Simon Head Married M 58 1823 Labourer Cornwall
MAUNDER, Maria Wife Married F 55 1826 Dunicombe
HUDDEY, Mary A Visitor Single F 30 1851 Slapton, Devon
HUDDEY, Louisa Visitor Single F 23 1858 Stokefleming, Devon

Looks like Haddey rather than Huddey on the actual image.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 14 May 2013 22:57

Maria was born Cornworthy in census 1891. Louisa and Mary Haddey are visitors in census 1881.

Census 1861:

Address: Send Lane, St Saviour, Dartmouth County: Devonshire

HADDY, William Head Married M 41 1820 Ostler Dartmouth, Devon
HADDY, Maria Wife Married F 35 1826 Servant
..., Devon (Cornworthy on census image)
HADDY, Elizabeth Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar..., Devon
HADDY, Mary G Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar East Alvington, Devon
HADDY, Hannah Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar Slapton, Devon
HADDY, Emily Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar..., Devon
HADDY, Louisa Daughter F 3 1858 Stoke Fleming, Devon
HADDY, ... Daughter F 1 (19M) 1860 Stoke Fleming, Devon

????

Deaths Sep 1863 HADDY William Henry Kingsbridge 5b 124

Maria was a widow by 1871:

Address: Ford Lane, South, St Saviour, Dartmouth County: Devonshire

HADDY, Maria Head F 45 1826 Devon Widow, laundress, born Cornworthy.
HADDY, Louisa Daughter F 13 1858 Devon
HADDY, Triphina Daughter F 11 1860 Devon
HADDY, Bessie Daughter F 5 1866 Devon

No sign of son William.

David

David Report 14 May 2013 23:24

Kucinta

Harry John Harvey was Elizabeth's 2nd cousin - I had the family in my tree.

Thank you for the other info, I'll need to digest it

David. :-)