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Hoping you smart folks can find a 1901 census for them. Couple married 1887 Brentford District. After childhood he only shows as Arthur. He born Chelsea, London 1864 to Matthew Bates and Mary Ann Caroline Daly. She born (Great) Stanmore, Middlesex 1865 to Henry Tomlins and Sarah Seward. Have 1891 census with children Florence (1888), Harold (1889) and Robert (1890). By 1911 she is a widow having had 14 children of whom nine are still living. 1911 oldest two still in home and added Percy (1896), Reginald (1897), Arthur (1900) and Edward (1904). Through Percy born Teddington, then Reginald born Kew, Arthur born Twickenham and Edward born Ealing. Have tried with and without surname, children's names, etc.

1891

Arthur Bates Age: 26

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865

Head

Spouse's Name:

Margaret Bates

Where born:

Chelsea, Middlesex, England

Civil parish:

Teddington

Household Members:


Arthur Bates 26

Margaret Bates 25

Florence Bates 3

Harold Bates 2

Robert Bates 6/12

1911


Margaret Bates 44

Harold Roland Bates 22

Florence Harriel Bates 23

Percy Bates 15

Reginald Bates 14

Arthur Bates 11

Edward Bates 7

Many thanks for trying.

Arthur Edwin Bates

Birth 8 Sep 1864 inChelsea,
Death 10 Jul 1910 in Isleworth, Middlesex, , England


son

Robert Bates

Birth 1891 inTeddington,
Death1894 inTeddington,

Thank you Mike. You led me to Ancestry trees and indeed there are several other children there, but still no one has 1901.

Just posted for information


1881 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address 63, Cheyne Walk
Parish Chelsea
District Chelsea, Chelsea South
Administrative County Middlesex
Householder 1
Name Matthew Bates
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Clerk Of Works Builder
Birth Place Tilsworth
Birth County Bedfordshire
Householder 2
Name Mary Ann Caroline Bates
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1835
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place London
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 3
Name Francis Thomas Matthew Bates
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1858
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Clerk Timber Merchant
Birth Place London
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 4
Name Arthur Edwin Bates
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Carpenters Apprentice
Birth Place London
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 5
Name Albert Edward Bates
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place London
Birth County Middlesex

Someone might be able to search by Addresses if you have one I cannot

I haven't found them in 1901, but they were still at the 1891 address when daughter was christened:

Harriet Florence Bates
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 Jan 1895
Father's Name: Arthur Edward Bates
Mother's Name: Margaret Bates
Parish or Poor Law Union: Teddington St Peter and St Paul
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 9/10/1887, father a carpenter of 6 Fulwell Terrace. Though I've no idea why she was christened but not the other children - there's also this one which I think is the dead child - again address was the same:

Robert Richard Bates
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 May 1892
Father's Name: Arthur Bates
Mother's Name: Margaret Bates
Parish or Poor Law Union: Teddington St Peter and St Paul
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 5/10/1890 - underneath I think it says "private", but don't know what that means.

Can anyone search by the address given by Flip

Again just for information

1911 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 23 Prince's Road West Ealing
Parish Ealing
Town West Ealing
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 4 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN6893 RG78PN343A RD128 SD4 ED26 SN165
Administrative County Middlesex
Registration District Brentford
Registration Sub District Brentford
Enumeration District 26
Householder 1
Name Margaret Bates
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Widow
Gender F
Age 44
Estimated Year of Birth 1867
Occupation Domistic
Employed N
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Sanmore Middlesex
Nationality English
Householder 2
Name Harold Rolland Bates
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Occupation Assurance Agent
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Assurance Agent
Place of Birth Teddington Middlesex
Nationality English
Householder 3
Name Florence Harriet Bates
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1888
Occupation Housing Finisher
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Teddington Middlesex
Nationality English
Householder 4
Name Percy Bates
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1896
Occupation Errand Boy
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Teddington Middlesex
Nationality English
Householder 5
Name Reginald Bates
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1897
Occupation Errand Boy
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Kew Surrey
Nationality English
Householder 6
Name Aruther Bates
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1900
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Twickinham Middlesex
Nationality English
Householder 7
Name Edward Bates
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1904
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Ealing Middlesex
Nationality English
Householder 8
Name Letitia Prier
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Condition / Years Married Widow
Gender F
Age 63
Estimated Year of Birth 1848
Occupation Needle Woman
Employed N
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Woodstock Oxfordshire
Nationality English
Householder 9
Name Martha Tomlin
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1866
Occupation Dress Maker
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Hanmor Middesx
Nationality English

6, Fulwell Terrace on the 1901 census has a William, Florence and Frederick Jerrome living there.

ChristinaS

It was worth a shot

The only thing I can suggest is to get Arthur Jack's birth certificate, to get an address then try an address search.

Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
Bates Arthur Jack Brentford 3a 82

The family, which confirms middle names are at 7 Bayham Road, Ealing in 1928. According to the ERs - Margaret, Arthur Jack, Edward Ernest, Robert Loudoun and Harriet Florence Loudoun.

I've tried school admissions, christenings and marriages but no luck in finding anything other than the 2 christenings already posted.

Thanks to all for the new info. No question of getting certificate as relationship is distant. My tree on GR is about 6500 and my home tree up to over 27,000. When I finally put this on, maybe a relative of these people will contact me.

Many, many thanks