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i amtrying to find my gggrandmas parents names her maiden name was ellen morris she was born ireland 1847 she came to england she married thomas welsh in nottingham 1869 children ellen maryann john william thomas kate if any one could help me would love to know

Hello Linda, welcome to the boards.

If you find her marriage to Thomas Welsh and then order their marriage certificate it should tell you her father's name and occupation (if she knew him).

Is she on 1871 as WILCH

Marriage to Thomas Welsh
1869 17 May
Age: 23
St Barnabus Cath Nottingham

For info, this looks to be the family?

1881 England Census about Ellen Welsh
Name: Ellen Welsh
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Welsh
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Nottingham St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 12 Lees Yard
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Exchange
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3361
Folio: 99
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Welsh 38 born: Ireland
Ellen Welsh 36
Ellen Welsh 13
Mary A. Welsh 10
John Welsh 7
James Welsh 5
William Welsh 2
..........................................

1891 England Census about Thomas Welsh
Name: Thomas Welsh
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Welsh
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2701
Folio: 68
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Welsh 46
Ellen Welsh 45
Mary A Welsh 20
John Welsh 17
James Welsh 14
William Welsh 12
Thomas Welsh 9
Kate Welsh 7
Harriet Feeley 21
Michael Feeley 17
...........................................................

Added:-

1901 England Census about Ellen Welsh
Name: Ellen Welsh
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Widow

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Piece: 3170
Folio: 44
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Welsh 52
Catherine Welsh 17
Thomas Welsh 19
Mary Ann Bradey 30 - Widow
Annie Bradey 8
John Bradey 2

could this be here birth ,
Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about Ellen Morris
Name:
Ellen Morris
Gender:
Female
Baptism Date:
31 Jul 1853
Baptism Place:
Roman Catholic, Castleisland, Kerry, Ireland
Father's Name: >>>>>>>>>>>>>;; Godfrey Morris
Mother's Name:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mary Sweeney
FHL Film Number:
823803

Can't find him on the 1871 though.

1871 does look to be them:-



1871 England Census about Thomas Wilch
Name: Thomas Wilch
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Wilch
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Exchange
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 108
Piece: 3524
Folio: 15
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wilch 28
Ellen Wilch 30
Ellen Wilch 3
Marek Wilch 2 Months

.......................................

...................living next door to his parents:-

1871 England Census about Patric Welsh
Name: Patric Welsh
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Welsh
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Exchange
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 109
Piece: 3524
Folio: 15
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Patric Welsh 54
Catherine Welsh 45
James Welsh 21
Mary Welsh 20 - (sons wife)

Sometimes 1911 census shows more info about place of birth than other census records, but unfortunately it doesn't help in this case:-

Name Relation Condition /
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
HOOTON, John Head Married5 years M 26 1885 Lace Dresser Radford Nottingham VIEW
HOOTON, Catherine Wife Married F 27 1884 St Marys P Nottingham VIEW
HOOTON, John Son M 5 1906 St Marys P Nottingham VIEW
HOOTON, Mary Daughter F 3 1908 Peters P Nottingham VIEW
WELSH, Ellen Relative Widow F 68 1843 Lace Clipper Ireland VIEW
HOOTON, Mabel Daughter F 1 1910 St Marys P Nottingham VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 20517 Reference: RG14PN20517 RG78PN1229 RD430 SD2 ED4 SN62 Registration District: Nottingham Sub District: Nottingham South East Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Nottingham Address: 34 Foundry Yard County: Nottinghamshire

Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%)
<<<<<HOOTON John Nottingham 7b 794
KIDNEY Emily Frances M Nottingham 7b 794
John Furley Nottingham 7b 794
<<<<<WELSH Catherine Nottingham 7b 794

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