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Could someone please look in 1891 Census for Louisa Smith, her father Thomas Smith & (as yet unknown) family. Was she in Inkerman Road, Kentish Town?

She married George Harvey on 17th August 1891. Her address was given as 33 Inkerman Road, Kentish Town, London (parish record). Her age is 20 years and her father is Thomas Smith, a plumber.

I have her in Censuses after the marriage but nothing before it, and nothing for her father & family.

Thank you in advance
David

1891
Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born Image
317 WRIGHT, George Head Married M 46 1845 Zinc Worker
Hampstead VIEW
317 WRIGHT, Harriet Wife Married F 46 1845
Goring, Berkshire VIEW
317 WRIGHT, Harriet Daughter Single F 22 1869 Dressmaker
Camden Town VIEW
317 WRIGHT, Rebecca Daughter Single F 21 1870 Domestic Servant
Camden Town VIEW
317 SANDERCOTT, Elizabeth Sister In Law Single F 25 1866 Domestic Servant
Hampstead VIEW
317 WRIGHT, George Son Single M 17 1874 Telegraph Work
Kentish Town VIEW
317 WRIGHT, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 4 1887
Kentish Town VIEW
317 WRIGHT, Frederick Grandson Single M 0 1891
Kentish Town VIEW
317 SANDERS, Eliza Mother In Law Widow F 73 1818
Blind Streatley, Berkshire VIEW
318 SMITH, Louisa Lodger Single F 19 1872 Filter Of Patent Medicine
St Pancras VIEW
RG number: RG12
Piece: 133
Folio: 50
Page: 44
Sub District: Kentish Town
Enumeration District: 13
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Barnabas
Municipal Borough:
Address: 33, Inkerman Road, St Pancras
County: London



Regards Vera

Thank you Vera

David :-)

This one looks like a possible:

Louisa Hinson Smith
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Jun 1873
Father's Name: Thomas Smith
Mother's Name: Ann Elizabeth Smith
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 5/5/1871, father a plumber but I can't make out the address.
Christened same day was Drussilla Hinson Smith (born 30 May) the address could be 14 Alderham Street.

??

1881

RG number: RG11
Piece: 203
Folio: 44
Page: 47
Reg. District: Pancras
Sub District: Somers Town
Parish: St Pancras
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 14, Aldenham St, St Pancras
County: London, Middlesex

WASH, Anne E Head Widow F 44 1837
Bengeo Farm, Hertfordshire
SMITH, James H Son Single M 19 1862 Lamp Lighter (Gas)
St Pancras, Middlesex
SMITH, Herbert H Son Single M 13 1868
St Pancras, Middlesex
>>>>>SMITH, Louisa H Daughter Single F 10 1871
St Pancras, Middlesex
SMITH, Drusilla H Daughter Single F 8 1873
St Pancras, Middlesex
NOTTS, Henry Boarder Single M 30 1851 Labourer
St Pancras, Middlesex

1871

RG number RG10
Piece: 228
Folio: 34
Page: 64
Reg. District: Pancras
Sub District:
Parish: Pancras
Enum. District: 21
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Aldenham St, Pancras
County: London, Middlesex

SMITH, Thomas Head M 46 1825 Middlesex
SMITH, Ann Wife F 34 1837 Hertfordshire
SMITH, George Son M 11 1860 Middlesex
SMITH, James Son M 9 1862 Middlesex
SMITH, Henry Son M 2 1869 Middlesex

possibly was not married to Thomas Smith ?


Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
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>>>>>Hinson Ann Elizabeth Pancras 1b 133
ISOM Harry Arthur Pancras 1b 133
ROGERS Maria Louisa Pancras 1b 133
>>>>>WASH John Pancras 1b 133

So, looks like Thomas Smith and Ann Hinson weren't married - and their older children christened with Hinson as a middle name. Another one for eg.

Thomas George Henson Smith
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Jul 1859
Father's Name: Thomas Smith
Mother's Name: Ann Elizabeth Smith
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Wonder if Thomas Smith had been married before, so they couldn't marry??

Added, John Wash didn't last long though!

Hi David

Did any of Louisa's family show up on the census records you have found after her marriage - just to confirm or throw out the ideas posted above by Choccy & me?

Actually, I think this clinches it:

Drusilla Henson Smith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Age: 21
Spouse Name: William Edward Sherriff
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Oct 1894
Parish: Kentish Town St John the Baptist
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Thomas George Smith
Spouse Father Name: William Sherriff
Register Type: Parish Register

Both witnesses were her siblings, including Louisa Hinson Harvey!!
The other witness was Herbert Hinson Smith, and her father was a plumber.

?? Rather an unusual place name

Ann Hinson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Benegeo
Hundred: Hertford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Hertford
Sub-registration district: Hertford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 444
Book: 6
Folio: 20
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hinson 35
Elizabeth Hinson 40
George Hinson 13
Eliza Hinson 11
Mary Hinson 9
James Hinson 8
Martha Hinson 6
Ann Hinson 5 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Charlotte Hinson 1

Flip

No. Unless they are nearby and I have missed them.

1901 Census
Louisa and George & family are at 85 Islip St, Kentish Town
They were there in 20 Oct1895 when second child was baptised.

1911 Census
Louisa is in Finedon, Northamptonshire (family home)
George was in Horsey Lane Farm, Longdon, Staffordshire, with his brother - presumably constructing a building (both are carpenters)

I know that they lived in Bedford for some time - 2 yougest children (1906 &1909) were registered there

David

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengeo

Bengeo is a suburb and former village on the northwest edge of the county town of Hertford in Hertfordshire, England

Hi David

I think the birth and census info posted for Louisa is correct for your Louisa - especially after finding her as a witness on Drusilla's marriage as Louisa Hinson Harvey. The image shows Drusilla's middle name is Hinson, not Henson as transcribed.

Thnk you all for your help. It is much appreciated. A way through an apparent brick wall!

This was my first request for help and I am pleasantly surprised by the speed of responses.

David :-D

Ann Elizabeth Hinson (declared herself a spinster)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Age: 43
Spouse Name: John Wash (widower, bricklayer)
Spouse Age: 56
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Dec 1879
Parish: St Pancras Parish Chapel
Borough: Camden
Father Name: John James Hinson (deceased labourer)
Spouse Father Name: James Wash
Register Type: Parish Register

Both of 14 Aldenham? Street.

You're welcome, we all like to help if we can. Come back to your thread if you need any more help with her family.

One thing, neither Drusilla or Louisa recorded their father as deceased when they married - although they may not have been asked the question. However, that means he may have still been around, although not with their mother.

Good luck, Smiths are dreadful to trace ;-)

On the 1871 Thomas Smith's occupation was a Painter.

This could be him in 1891 -

1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 328
Folio: 135
Page: 14
Reg. District: Poplar
Sub District: Bromley
Parish: Bromley
Enum. District: 47
Ecclesiastical District: St Marys
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Bromley
County: London


SMITH, Thomas Inmate Widower M 66 1825 House Painter
St Pancras, Middlesex

Stepney Union Workhouse, St Leonard Street Bromley