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12 May 2013 14:48 |
Could someone please look in 1891 Census for Louisa Smith, her father Thomas Smith & (as yet unknown) family. Was she in Inkerman Road, Kentish Town?
She married George Harvey on 17th August 1891. Her address was given as 33 Inkerman Road, Kentish Town, London (parish record). Her age is 20 years and her father is Thomas Smith, a plumber.
I have her in Censuses after the marriage but nothing before it, and nothing for her father & family.
Thank you in advance David
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Vera
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12 May 2013 14:51 |
1891 Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born Image 317 WRIGHT, George Head Married M 46 1845 Zinc Worker Hampstead VIEW 317 WRIGHT, Harriet Wife Married F 46 1845 Goring, Berkshire VIEW 317 WRIGHT, Harriet Daughter Single F 22 1869 Dressmaker Camden Town VIEW 317 WRIGHT, Rebecca Daughter Single F 21 1870 Domestic Servant Camden Town VIEW 317 SANDERCOTT, Elizabeth Sister In Law Single F 25 1866 Domestic Servant Hampstead VIEW 317 WRIGHT, George Son Single M 17 1874 Telegraph Work Kentish Town VIEW 317 WRIGHT, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 4 1887 Kentish Town VIEW 317 WRIGHT, Frederick Grandson Single M 0 1891 Kentish Town VIEW 317 SANDERS, Eliza Mother In Law Widow F 73 1818 Blind Streatley, Berkshire VIEW 318 SMITH, Louisa Lodger Single F 19 1872 Filter Of Patent Medicine St Pancras VIEW RG number: RG12 Piece: 133 Folio: 50 Page: 44 Sub District: Kentish Town Enumeration District: 13 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Barnabas Municipal Borough: Address: 33, Inkerman Road, St Pancras County: London
Regards Vera
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David
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12 May 2013 14:54 |
Thank you Vera
David :-)
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12 May 2013 15:52 |
This one looks like a possible:
Louisa Hinson Smith Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 17 Jun 1873 Father's Name: Thomas Smith Mother's Name: Ann Elizabeth Smith Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 5/5/1871, father a plumber but I can't make out the address. Christened same day was Drussilla Hinson Smith (born 30 May) the address could be 14 Alderham Street.
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12 May 2013 16:04 |
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RG number: RG11 Piece: 203 Folio: 44 Page: 47 Reg. District: Pancras Sub District: Somers Town Parish: St Pancras Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 14, Aldenham St, St Pancras County: London, Middlesex
WASH, Anne E Head Widow F 44 1837 Bengeo Farm, Hertfordshire SMITH, James H Son Single M 19 1862 Lamp Lighter (Gas) St Pancras, Middlesex SMITH, Herbert H Son Single M 13 1868 St Pancras, Middlesex >>>>>SMITH, Louisa H Daughter Single F 10 1871 St Pancras, Middlesex SMITH, Drusilla H Daughter Single F 8 1873 St Pancras, Middlesex NOTTS, Henry Boarder Single M 30 1851 Labourer St Pancras, Middlesex
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12 May 2013 16:13 |
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RG number RG10 Piece: 228 Folio: 34 Page: 64 Reg. District: Pancras Sub District: Parish: Pancras Enum. District: 21 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Aldenham St, Pancras County: London, Middlesex
SMITH, Thomas Head M 46 1825 Middlesex SMITH, Ann Wife F 34 1837 Hertfordshire SMITH, George Son M 11 1860 Middlesex SMITH, James Son M 9 1862 Middlesex SMITH, Henry Son M 2 1869 Middlesex
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12 May 2013 16:16 |
possibly was not married to Thomas Smith ?
Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>Hinson Ann Elizabeth Pancras 1b 133 ISOM Harry Arthur Pancras 1b 133 ROGERS Maria Louisa Pancras 1b 133 >>>>>WASH John Pancras 1b 133
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12 May 2013 16:36 |
So, looks like Thomas Smith and Ann Hinson weren't married - and their older children christened with Hinson as a middle name. Another one for eg.
Thomas George Henson Smith Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 9 Jul 1859 Father's Name: Thomas Smith Mother's Name: Ann Elizabeth Smith Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers
Wonder if Thomas Smith had been married before, so they couldn't marry??
Added, John Wash didn't last long though!
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12 May 2013 16:42 |
Hi David
Did any of Louisa's family show up on the census records you have found after her marriage - just to confirm or throw out the ideas posted above by Choccy & me?
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12 May 2013 16:45 |
Actually, I think this clinches it:
Drusilla Henson Smith Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Age: 21 Spouse Name: William Edward Sherriff Spouse Age: 26 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 20 Oct 1894 Parish: Kentish Town St John the Baptist Borough: Camden Father Name: Thomas George Smith Spouse Father Name: William Sherriff Register Type: Parish Register
Both witnesses were her siblings, including Louisa Hinson Harvey!! The other witness was Herbert Hinson Smith, and her father was a plumber.
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12 May 2013 16:57 |
?? Rather an unusual place name
Ann Hinson Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Gender: Female Where born: Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Benegeo Hundred: Hertford County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address:
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View image Registration district: Hertford Sub-registration district: Hertford Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 444 Book: 6 Folio: 20 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age John Hinson 35 Elizabeth Hinson 40 George Hinson 13 Eliza Hinson 11 Mary Hinson 9 James Hinson 8 Martha Hinson 6 Ann Hinson 5 <<<<<<<<<<<< Charlotte Hinson 1
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12 May 2013 17:03 |
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No. Unless they are nearby and I have missed them.
1901 Census Louisa and George & family are at 85 Islip St, Kentish Town They were there in 20 Oct1895 when second child was baptised.
1911 Census Louisa is in Finedon, Northamptonshire (family home) George was in Horsey Lane Farm, Longdon, Staffordshire, with his brother - presumably constructing a building (both are carpenters)
I know that they lived in Bedford for some time - 2 yougest children (1906 &1909) were registered there
David
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12 May 2013 17:03 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengeo
Bengeo is a suburb and former village on the northwest edge of the county town of Hertford in Hertfordshire, England
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12 May 2013 17:12 |
Hi David
I think the birth and census info posted for Louisa is correct for your Louisa - especially after finding her as a witness on Drusilla's marriage as Louisa Hinson Harvey. The image shows Drusilla's middle name is Hinson, not Henson as transcribed.
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12 May 2013 17:26 |
Thnk you all for your help. It is much appreciated. A way through an apparent brick wall!
This was my first request for help and I am pleasantly surprised by the speed of responses.
David :-D
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12 May 2013 17:26 |
Ann Elizabeth Hinson (declared herself a spinster) Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Age: 43 Spouse Name: John Wash (widower, bricklayer) Spouse Age: 56 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 22 Dec 1879 Parish: St Pancras Parish Chapel Borough: Camden Father Name: John James Hinson (deceased labourer) Spouse Father Name: James Wash Register Type: Parish Register
Both of 14 Aldenham? Street.
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12 May 2013 17:34 |
You're welcome, we all like to help if we can. Come back to your thread if you need any more help with her family.
One thing, neither Drusilla or Louisa recorded their father as deceased when they married - although they may not have been asked the question. However, that means he may have still been around, although not with their mother.
Good luck, Smiths are dreadful to trace ;-)
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12 May 2013 17:43 |
On the 1871 Thomas Smith's occupation was a Painter.
This could be him in 1891 -
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RG number: RG12 Piece: 328 Folio: 135 Page: 14 Reg. District: Poplar Sub District: Bromley Parish: Bromley Enum. District: 47 Ecclesiastical District: St Marys City/Municipal Borough: Address: Bromley County: London
SMITH, Thomas Inmate Widower M 66 1825 House Painter St Pancras, Middlesex
Stepney Union Workhouse, St Leonard Street Bromley
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