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patchem
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5 Oct 2014 19:35 |
Jennifer,
Welcome to the boards.
As Martyn did not return to the boards after May 2013 he may not be expecting any replies now.
If you click on his name you can send him a pm and then discuss your history with him.
(Genes do not tell him automatically of any replies on the boards)
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Jennifer
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5 Oct 2014 19:17 |
Hi Martyn
Your GGrandfather William's brother, George, is my husband's GGGrandfather. I'm struggling with an accurate date of birth for George as on some censuses is says abt 1870 and some 1873 and his wedding certificate says he's 30 in 1905 making it 1875 but I'm fairly sure this is the right family because my Mother in Law knows he was one of 16. I did wonder if there was two Georges - one born in 1870 that died soon after but I haven't been able to establish this.
I agree their parents were Robert and Isabel(la) but I think the Vert link is a red herring......there are two Robert and Isabellas in the Rothbury area at that time.....Isabella Vert is further away from Rothbury, though. I might be wrong, however. I'm struggling to find their marriage but think Robert was born 1805 Whittingham died 1886. Isabella born 1809 Rothbury died 1878 Rothbury.
I think Robert's (1805) parents were William Richardson and Florence Crozier but I've reached a dead end with finding anything on them. Thought Florence would be a good name but nothing except her registering her children.
Let me know if you want to share any more info. Regards, Jenny
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patchem
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5 May 2013 21:55 |
You respond on here, then we can all see what is going on.
I could not see an obvious birth for Adam or Andrew Taylor on free bmd - perhaps they did not like records.
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Martyn
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5 May 2013 21:21 |
Good point about the 1874 marriage in Newcastle. I never really looked at it that way before.
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Martyn
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5 May 2013 21:06 |
Hello all,
Being new to the notice board and as a matter of protocol, do I respond to you all individually or respond in this "Add to reply"
Don't want to offend anyone who has taken the time to respond to me.
Regards
Martyn
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Martyn
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5 May 2013 21:00 |
Thanks Patchem,
Yes this is the Taylor family I am referring to. However it is the marriage between Robert & this Mary Taylor that I am trying to establish. As you can see there are quite a few similar names between Mary Taylor's' parents Peers & Mary & Robert Richardson's siblings.
Robert RICHARDSON (1833-1891) Mary RICHARDSON - (1832-1896) John RICHARDSON (1855- ) William RICHARDSON (1856-1936) Eleanor Isabella Francis RICHARDSON (1857- ) Mary RICHARDSON (1860?- ) Robert RICHARDSON (1861?- ) Andrew RICHARDSON (1863-1938) Isabella RICHARDSON (1864- ) Jane RICHARDSON (1867- ) Margaret RICHARDSON (1869?- ) George RICHARDSON (1870?- ) Alexander RICHARDSON (1871-1871) Laura Annie RICHARDSON (1872- ) Elizabeth Taylor RICHARDSON (1874- ) Jessie Hannah RICHARDSON (1878- )
Name Andrew Taylor Birth Date Birthplace Age Spouse's Name Eleanor Sharp Spouse's Birth Date Spouse's Birthplace Spouse's Age Event Date10 Sep 1821 Event Place Alwinton, Northumberland, England Father's Name Mother's Name Spouse's Father's Name Spouse's Mother's Name Race Marital Status Previous Wife's Name Spouse's Race Spouse's Marital Status Spouse's Previous Husband's Name Indexing Project (Batch) NumberM00017-3 System OriginEngland-ODM GS Film number1068613 Reference ID
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Martyn
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patchem
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5 May 2013 20:19 |
Have you got Mary in 1841 with family? Thanks
Added: Is this the family as Rothbury is near Alwinton 1841 England Census Mary Taylor Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Gender: Female Where born: Northumberland, England Civil parish: Rothbury Hundred: Coquetdale (West Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Rothbury Sub-registration district: Rothbury Piece: 831 Book: 23 Folio: 4 Page Number: 14 Jasper Taylor 75 Eleanor Taylor 35 Margaret Taylor 13 Cathrine Taylor 11 Mary Taylor 9 Elizabeth Taylor 7 Eleanor Taylor 5 Adam Taylor 3 Andrew Taylor 1 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 831; Book: 23; Civil Parish: Rothbury; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 5c; Folio: 4; Page: 14; Line: 21; GSU roll: 438891.
If it is the correct family then Andrew's birth certificate will give mother's maiden name.
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Martyn
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5 May 2013 18:27 |
Hi all, thank you for your responses.
I feel that Robert had not been married previously as most of their children seem to be named after Robert and Mary's parents and peers. Mary's father was Andrew and her mother was Eleanor Sharp. I have trawled through a lot of parish records for Roberts Marriage & Birth to no avail. Some of them seem to be missing for the dates I am looking for.
I am not quite sure In which Parish I should be looking.
I also think that Roberts parents were Robert and Isabella, possibly Vert.
Regards Martyn
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ErikaH
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5 May 2013 13:47 |
????????
1841 census
Person: TAYLOR, Margt Address: Lilburn, East, Eglingham, Lilburn, East
TAYLOR, James M 50 1791 Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, Mary F 45 1796 Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, Andrew M 20 1821 Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, William M 15 1826 Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, James M 15 1826 Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, Isabella F 12 1829 Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, Mary F 10 1831 Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, Ann F 6 1835 Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, Martha F 4 1837 Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, Margt F 8 1833 Northumberland
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MarieCeleste
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5 May 2013 13:47 |
The images for parish records for the area are on this link: https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FMMRX-TT2%3An540952097%3Fcc%3D1309819
Happy browsing!
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ErikaH
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5 May 2013 13:44 |
1861 census
Person: RICHARDSON, Robert Address: Shadfen, Hepscott
RICHARDSON, Robert Head Married M 28 1833 Agricultural Labourer Wooler, Northumberland VIEW RICHARDSON, Mary Wife Married F 27 1834 Harbottle, Northumberland VIEW RICHARDSON, John Son M 6 1855 Rothbury, Northumberland VIEW RICHARDSON, Wm Son M 4 1857 Alwinton, Northumberland VIEW RICHARDSON, Eleanor Js Fe Daughter F 3 1858 Alwinton, Northumberland VIEW RICHARDSON, Mary Daughter F 1 1860 Hartburn, Northumberland VIEW RICHARDSON, Robert Son M 0 (1M) 1861 Morpeth, Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, Margt Servant Unmarried F 27 1834 House Servant Harbottle, Northumberland
Suggest Margaret may have been Mary's sister
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MarieCeleste
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5 May 2013 13:41 |
Seeing as he had a daughter called Isabella then she could have been named for his mother:
Robert Richardson in entry for Isabella, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" Name: Isabella Gender: Female Christening Date: 1864 Christening Place: ALNHAM, NORTHUMBERLAND, ENGLAND Birth Date: 1864 Father's Name: Robert Richardson Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00133-2 System Origin: England-VR GS Film number: 1068613 Reference ID: - 2:W8G4P3
Citing this Record https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NDX8-S8G
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ErikaH
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5 May 2013 13:39 |
1851 census
Person: TAYLOR, Mary Address: Newlands SCOTT, Joseph Head Married M 57 1794 Farm Bailiff Egglingham, Northumberland VIEW SCOTT, Ann Wife Married F 47 1804 Farm Bailiff Wife Alwinton, Northumberland VIEW SCOTT, Magdillen Daughter Married F 21 1830 Farm Bailiff Chillingham, Northumberland VIEW SCOTT, John Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Ag Lab Chillingham, Northumberland VIEW SCOTT, William Son M 14 1837 Ag Lab Chillingham, Northumberland VIEW SCOTT, Joan Daughter F 12 1839 Scholar Chillingham, Northumberland VIEW SCOTT, Robert Son M 10 1841 Scholar Chatton, Northumberland VIEW TAYLOR, Mary Servant Unmarried F 18 1833 Ag Lab Alwinton, Northumberland VIEW GIBSON, George Son-In-Law Married M 23 1828 Ag Lab Bamburgh, Northumberland VIEW GIBSON, George Grand Son M 1 1850 Egglingham, Northumberland
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ErikaH
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5 May 2013 13:34 |
You won't be able to find a birth record for Robert.......he was born before the GRO came into being.
Look for a baptism............
https://familysearch.org/
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ErikaH
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5 May 2013 13:33 |
1851 census
Person: RICHARDSON, Robert Address: Dancinghall
RICHARDSON, Robert Head Married M 45 1806 Ag Lab Thornton, Northumberland VIEW RICHARDSON, Isabell Wife Married F 43 1808 Whitfield, Northumberland VIEW RICHARDSON, Robert Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Ag Lab Plamfield, Northumberland VIEW RICHARDSON, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Reighill, Northumberland VIEW KENADY, Margaret Lodger Unmarried F 30 1821 Pauper Out Of Health Whittingham, Northumberland
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patchem
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5 May 2013 13:28 |
You could get the marriage certificate and then see if it fits with what you know about them - place,age, occupation, address. Have you got Robert and Mary in the 1841 and 1851 censuses?
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MarieCeleste
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5 May 2013 13:14 |
Hello Martyn - welcome to the boards.
Just because a couple claimed to be married it doesn't mean that they were! There may have been some impediment as to why they didn't marry until later, such as one of them being married to someone else so they waited until that first spouse had died. (Although quite a few didn't bother waiting and just blithely committed bigamy).
Or, perhaps they just never got round to it until later?
EDIT: Also, I'm a little suspicious of that 1874 marriage - they seem to stay consistently further up Northumberland so if they DID ever marry they would have been more likely to do it locally rather than travel into Newcastle.
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Martyn
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5 May 2013 13:10 |
Hello,
Can anyone please help me to find the marriage between Robert Richardson Born 1833 Born in Plainfield, Northumberland, & Mary Taylor Born 1932 in Low Alwinton, Northumberland,
There is a record of a Robert Richardsons Marriage to Mary Taylor in Newcastle - October to December 1874 - Vol 10b Page 305 - This would make Robert about 41 Years old.
However, their eldest son John,was Born 1855 in Allendean Spittle, Northumberland, and every census from 1861 claims they claim they were married.
The Birth Certificate of My Great Grandfather (William Richardson) Born 1856 - Shows that his mother was Mary Taylor & his father was Robert Richardson.
Any Help would be much appreciated as I seem to have come to a complete dead end with both Roberts Birth & Marriage.
Regards
Martyn
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