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Michael
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4 May 2013 06:26 |
Trying to find info on my Great/Great/Grandfather John Griffiths, born 1837. On my Greatgrandfather's (Robert Lloyd Griffiths b 1864) birth certificate it states his father...John Griffiths and mother....Mary Ann (no surname). I have hit an absolute deadend re his details., who he was married to, and if he had been married before or after Robert's birth. Hope this makes sense.
Regards to all, Mike Griffiths, Dundas, NSW Australia
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MarieCeleste
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4 May 2013 07:37 |
Hi Mike - it would help if you could tell us where this was ...
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Fredk
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4 May 2013 07:40 |
Have you any idea where he was born
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Vera
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4 May 2013 07:41 |
Hi Michael, Please can you tell me where he was born?
Regards Vera
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Astra
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4 May 2013 07:53 |
Tree on Ancestry has him born Liverpool in 1864 parents John Griffiths and Mary Ann Price
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Astra
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4 May 2013 07:58 |
This is his marriage according to the Ancestry details
Name: Robert Griffiths Birth Year: abt 1864 Age: 22 Marriage Date: 8 Mar 1886 Parish: Everton, Christ Church Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Ann Lythgoe Father's Name: John Griffiths Spouse Father's Name: Johnathan Lythgoe Reference Number: 283 CST/3/2
John Griffiths was a labourer and the witnesses were Edward Roberts and Mary Ellen Lythgoe. Roberts address at the time was 2 Boyd Street and he was an Engine driver. So if this is correct where and when does he take on the name Lloyd?
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Astra
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4 May 2013 08:14 |
Other tree have him born in Denbighshire or Flintshire and show this
Name: Robert Griffiths Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Griffiths Mother's Name: Mary A Griffiths Gender: Male Where born: Flintshire, Wales Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Less County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 42 Household schedule number: 95 Piece: 3762 Folio: 106 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age John Griffiths 26 Mary A Griffiths 26 Robert Griffiths 8 Joseph Griffiths 6 Ann Griffiths 3 William Griffiths 1 Year, 3 Months Jane Francis 24
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MarieCeleste
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4 May 2013 08:26 |
Another question Mike - what was his father's occupation on Robert Lloyd Griffiths birth certificate?
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Fredk
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4 May 2013 08:32 |
Is this a possible for Robert
1911 Census Household Record Household information Address High Street Clydach Parish Rhyndwyglydach Town Clydach Type of Building House & Shop Number of Rooms 6 Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN32700 RG78PN1866 RD593 SD1 ED19 SN92 Administrative County Glamorganshire Registration District Pontardawe Registration Sub District Pontardawe Enumeration District 19 Householder 1 Name Robert Lloyd Griffiths Relationship to Head of Household Husban Condition / Years Married Married Gender M Age 49 Estimated Year of Birth 1862 Occupation Grocer Co Employed Y Working at Home Y Industry Grocer's Shop Place of Birth Glamorgan Clydach Parish Llangefalach Language English and Welsh 2 Householder 2 Name Elizabeth Griffiths Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married Married Total Children Born Alive 3 Children Still Living 2 Children Who Have Died 1 Gender F Age 49 Estimated Year of Birth 1862 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Glamorgan Clydach Parish Llangefalach Language English and Welsh 2 Householder 3 Name Horold Llyd Griffiths Relationship to Head of Household Son Condition / Years Married Single Gender M Age 13 Estimated Year of Birth 1898 Occupation School Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Glamorgan Clydach Parish Llangefalach Language English and Welsh 2 Householder 4 Name Sidney John Griffiths Relationship to Head of Household Son Condition / Years Married Single Gender M Age 8 Estimated Year of Birth 1903 Occupation School Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Glamorgan Clydach Parish Llangefalach Language 7 Householder 5 Name Thomas Jenkins Relationship to Head of Household W Brother Condition / Years Married Single Gender M Age 59 Estimated Year of Birth 1852 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Glamorgan Clydach Parish Llangefalach Language 4 Householder 6 Name Gladys Davies Relationship to Head of Household Servant Condition / Years Married Single Gender F Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1896 Occupation Juvenile Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Glamorgan Clydach Parish Llangefalach Language 4
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Fredk
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4 May 2013 08:40 |
1901 Census Household Record Household information Address Mount Pleasant Civil Parish Rhyndwyclydach Rural District Pontardawe Town or Village or Hamlet Clydach Ecclesiastical Parish St John Clydach Parliamentary Borough or Division Gower County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Administrative County Glamorgan Householder 1 Name Elizabeth Griffiths Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 38 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Glam Clydach Language Both Infirmity Householder 2 Name Harold Lloyd Griffiths Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 3 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Glam Clydach Language Both Infirmity Householder 3 Name Robert Lloyd Griffiths Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 39 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Grocer Shop Keeper Employment Status Where Born Glam Clydach Language Both Infirmity Householder 4 Name Elizabeth Jenkins Relation to Head of Family Niece Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 20 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Grocers Assistant Employment Status Where Born Glam Clydach Language Both Infirmity
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Fredk
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4 May 2013 08:53 |
Marriage Record Name Robert Lloyd Griffiths Year of Marriage 1895 Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District Pontardawe Registration County Glamorganshire Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912 Volume Number 11A Volume Page 1219
Spouse Match
Robert Lloyd Griffiths married one of the people below:
Elizabeth JENKINS View Margaret LOTT View John Eynon LLOYD View
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Astra
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4 May 2013 08:54 |
If he had a child called John James Griffiths born Liverpool 1889 who emigrated to Australia in 1912 then he gives his birth location as Flintshire.
His parents Robert and Elizabeth are living in Liverpool.
Need the OP back with more information.
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Fredk
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4 May 2013 09:05 |
Birth Record Name Robert Lloyd Griffiths Year of Registration 1861 Quarter of Registration Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District Swansea Registration County Glamorganshire Mother's maiden name Volume Number 11A Volume Page 467
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Michael
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4 May 2013 11:07 |
I believe John Griffiths was born in Holywell, Flintshire, Wales, His son Robert Lloyd was also born in Flintshire. Robert's wife was Elizabeth Ann Lythgoe and were married March 1866. Their son (my grandfather) John James was born in 1889 and travelled to Australia in 1912. It is so difficult to conduct research via the internet only when one is on the other side of the world. I am truely stuck with John's (b1837) marriage, so any assistance is enormously appreciated.
Mike - Australia
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Fredk
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4 May 2013 11:21 |
1911 Census Record Personal Information Name Robert Griffiths Relationship to Head of Household Boarder Condition Single Gender M Age 50 Estimated Year of Birth 1861 Occupation Clerk Shipping Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Holywell Flint Enumerator Information Address 60 Selborne St Toxteth Park Liverpool Parish Toxteth Park Town Liverpool Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms 8 Rooms Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN22266 RG78PN1316 RD454 SD3 ED15 SN61 Administrative County Lancashire Registration District Toxteth Park Registration Sub District Toxteth Park Central Enumeration District 15 Reference Information Folio 125 Page 1 Piece 22266 RD number 454 SD number 3 ED number 15 Schedule 61
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Astra
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4 May 2013 11:41 |
This marriage looks good and would make sense.
Marriages Sep 1863 (>99%) CARTWRIGHT Thomas Holywell 11b 409 Davies Maria Holywell 11b 409 >>GRIFFITHS John Holywell 11b 409 >>Lloyd Mary Anne Holywell 11b 409
Checking the census in 1871 Thomas Cartwright married Maria Davies so John Griffiths married Mary Lloyd. The marriage cert. ordered through the GRO for £9.25 will give you their father's names and occupations
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Fredk
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4 May 2013 13:19 |
1881 Census Household Record ousehold Information Address 115, Elias Street Cellar Parish Everton District West Derby, Everton Administrative County Lancashire Householder 1 Name John Griffiths Age 44 Estimated Year of Birth 1837 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Fireman Gasworks Birth Place Wales Birth County Flintshire Householder 2 Name Mary A Griffiths Age 33 Estimated Year of Birth 1848 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Wales Birth County Flintshire Householder 3 Name Robert Griffiths Age 17 Estimated Year of Birth 1864 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Labourer Builder Birth Place Wales Birth County Flintshire Householder 4 Name Joseph Griffiths Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1866 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Errand Boy Birth Place Wales Birth County Denbighshire Householder 5 Name Anne Griffiths Age 13 Estimated Year of Birth 1868 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Scholar Birth Place Wales Birth County Denbighshire Householder 6 Name Elizabeth Griffiths Age 5 Estimated Year of Birth 1876 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Scholar Birth Place Liverpool Birth County Lancashire Householder 7 Name Thomas Griffiths Age 3 Estimated Year of Birth 1878 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Scholar Birth Place Liverpool Birth County Lancashire Householder 8 Name William Griffiths Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1881 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Liverpool Birth County Lancashire
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4 May 2013 13:30 |
1861 Census Household Record Household Information Address Milwr Parish Holywell District Holywell, Holywell Administrative County Flintshire Householder 1 Name Richard Griffiths Age 46 Estimated Year of Birth 1815 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Lead Miner Birth Place Caerwys Birth County Flintshire Householder 2 Name Ann Griffiths Age 48 Estimated Year of Birth 1813 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Mold Birth County Flintshire Householder 3 Name John Griffiths Age 23 Estimated Year of Birth 1838 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Labourer Birth Place Holywell Birth County Flintshire Householder 4 Name Edward Griffiths Age 19 Estimated Year of Birth 1842 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Quarryman Birth Place Holywell Birth County Flintshire Householder 5 Name Jane Griffiths Age 16 Estimated Year of Birth 1845 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Birth Place Holywell Birth County Flintshire Householder 6 Name Daniel Griffiths Age 14 Estimated Year of Birth 1847 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Holywell Birth County Flintshire Householder 7 Name George Griffiths Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1849 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Mold Birth County Flintshire Householder 8 Name William Griffiths Age 10 Estimated Year of Birth 1851 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Halkyn Birth County Flintshire
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