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Cherilyn
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3 May 2013 09:02 |
Hi all
Hoping sks can help me find anything about the parents and/or siblings of this fellow. He has been a brick wall for a while, just can't get further back.
From another tree online i have his birthdate as 23/5/1850 Angus, Scotland but no further replies/contact have been forthcoming.
HIs death notice said for New Zealand papers to copy, but have no idea what his connection is there. He married in South Australia in 1880.
FYI: The Argus, Monday 24 November 1930, p.1 WYLLIE-On the 23rd November, at his son's residence 28 Bent street, Moonee Ponds, William Boyd, beloved husband of the late Emma Wyllie, loving father of Percy (WA), Ernest, Ethel (Mrs F. W. Wood, Auburn), Leslie, Lily (Mrs P. Leeson, Auburn), aged 81 years (New Zealand please copy.) -Peacefully sleeping.
I have details of his marriage and children, wife's family etc, just stuck on him! :)
His son Percy was my stepdad's grandfather.
EDIT: His father is George and his mother's mn is BOYD.
Thank you
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Cherilyn
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3 May 2013 09:07 |
Just found this and wonder if any connection?
Name: Boyd G Wyllie Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 Gender: Male Age: 2 Relationship to Head of Household: Son Birthplace: Scotland Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Sevenoaks Sub-District: Penshurst Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary Magdalene Cowden Parish: Cowden County: Kent
anyone see full household please?
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ErikaH
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3 May 2013 09:58 |
1891 census
Person: WYLLIE, Boyd G
Address: Crippenden, Spood Lane, Cowden
WYLLIE, John Head Married M 33 1858 Farmer Scotland VIEW WYLLIE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 28 1863 Scotland VIEW WYLLIE, Hugh Son M 5 1886 Scotland VIEW WYLLIE, Bessie Daughter F 3 1888 Scotland VIEW WYLLIE, Boyd G Son M 2 1889 Scotland VIEW WYLLIE, John Son M 0 (4M) 1891 Cowden, Kent VIEW AVAAN, Mary E Servant Single F 65 1826 General Servant Domestic Boreham, Sussex VIEW INGRAM, Gideon Servant Single M 38 1853 Shepherd Cowden, Kent VIEW BALDWIN, Walter Servant Single M 29 1862 Stockman Cowden, Kent VIEW
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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3 May 2013 09:59 |
1891 census transcription details for: Crippenden, Spood Lane, Cowden
PrintClose National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 675 Folio: 66 Page: 9 Reg. District: Sevenoaks Sub District: Penshurst Parish: Cowden Enum. District: 5 Ecclesiastical District: St Mary Magdalene Cowden City/Municipal Borough: Address: Crippenden, Spood Lane, Cowden County: Kent Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born WYLLIE, John Head Married M 33 1858 Farmer Scotland WYLLIE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 28 1863 Scotland WYLLIE, Hugh Son M 5 1886 Scotland WYLLIE, Bessie Daughter F 3 1888 Scotland WYLLIE, Boyd G Son M 2 1889 Scotland WYLLIE, John Son M 0 (4M) 1891 Cowden, Kent AVAAN, Mary E Servant Single F 65 1826 General Servant Domestic Boreham, Sussex INGRAM, Gideon Servant Single M 38 1853 Shepherd Cowden, Kent BALDWIN, Walter Servant Single M 29 1862 Stockman Cowden, Kent
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ErikaH
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3 May 2013 10:01 |
Is his father named on his marriage cert?
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ErikaH
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3 May 2013 10:05 |
If his age at death was accurate, he was born before 1850
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alviegal
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3 May 2013 10:09 |
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about William Boyd Wyllie Name: William Boyd Wyllie Father's Name: George Wyllie Spouse Name: Emma Trevena Spouse's Father's Name: William Trevena Marriage Date: 29 Mar 1880 Marriage Place: Res Of William Trevena Kapunda Registration Place: Kapunda, South Australia Page Number: 1271 Volume Number: 122
He is a dairy farmer/ dairyman on Electoral rolls.
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Cherilyn
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5 May 2013 10:11 |
Thanks everyone.
So his father was George...if young Boyd's middle name was George that might add credence to the theory!
Yes you're right he should be born in 1848 or 49...wish I knew what the source was. Maybe that was his christening/baptism date in 1850?
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Cherilyn
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5 May 2013 10:14 |
A Boyd G WYLLIE died in Yorkshire in 1967? Sadly no one on GR has him in theor tree.
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Cherilyn
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5 May 2013 10:33 |
Might order Wm's death cert, Vic certs are much cheaper than SA ones. In any case an 1880 marriage won't give mother's name or place of birth.
Can't find online what info the Vic one will have but hopefully more than the cd does! That does say his mother's mn was BOYD...
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GlasgowLass
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5 May 2013 12:48 |
Hi Cherilyn, There is a story in various SA Newspapers in 1887 re W.B Wyllie and his father in law William Trevena. These articles do confirm that they were dairy farmers who established the first Cheese Factory in The District of Light
This also states that WB Wyllie had links to New Zealand & NSW but confirms he was a Scotty
Excerpt from attached artice Re WB Wyllie He "had considerable experience of Cheese Making in both NZ and NSW"
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/93963441?searchTerm=wyllie%20trevena&searchLimits=
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alviegal
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5 May 2013 21:37 |
'Fraid Boyd in 1891 does not have George as a middle name.
1888 WYLLIE BOYD GILMOUR M MAUCHLINE /AYR :-(
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GlasgowLass
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5 May 2013 23:11 |
I have looked at every possible version of William Boyd Wyllie on Scotlands People.
There were no Wyllies ( or variants) with father George and mother with maiden name Boyd, baptised anywhere in Scotland between 1820 and 1854.
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Cherilyn
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6 May 2013 01:11 |
Thanks everyone :)
That Trevena-Wyllie articls is very interesting, don't know how I missed that!
Hmmm GlasgowLass that missing birth/baptism is very odd isn't it? He really is a bit of an enigma this one! Will get the cert today and see what it says.
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Cherilyn
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6 May 2013 01:12 |
Just a thought Alviegal - wonder if Gilmour was his mother's (or maternal grandmother's) maiden name? :)
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Cherilyn
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6 May 2013 01:32 |
Just downloaded the death cert of Wm Boyd WYLLIE. Nothing new except that he died of senile debility and heart failure (14 days) and that he is buried at Burwood Cemetery. Father George Wyllie's occupation shown as 'unknown'.
Birthplace just says 'Scotland'. States he lived in Victoria for 28 years and SA for 23 years. Nothing about NSW. I haven't been able to find his arrival in SA so perhaps he came via NZ?
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PS Just found another article at NLA Trove where William was interviewed about his dairy cows and he says "On the old home farm in Scotland my father never reared a calf that he had to reject as a milker.." so his dad was also a dairy farmer???
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Cherilyn
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6 May 2013 01:50 |
Can't see him in NZ papers...unfortunately there was a Sir Wm Wyllie murdered in 1909 who clutters up the results, poor chap!
There was a John WYLLIE who had a dairy at Saltwater Creek (later at Sefton) and made (and exported) cheese...but he was born at Ayrshire in 1828 so a fair bit older than Wm.
I have sent an email to someone who has him in their online tree so will keep my fingers crossed.
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alviegal
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6 May 2013 11:10 |
Clutching at straws here. Was looking at a William born Mauchline, Ayrshire c 1850 who disappeared before 1871. His father was a farmer BUT he was called Hugh. This may be him but there is no other info.
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 about William Wyllie Name: William Wyllie Port of Departure: Auckland, New Zealand Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 10 Nov 1876 Vessel Name: Hero
EDIT No, I have found the birth of William, son of Hugh in March 1851.
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GlasgowLass
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6 May 2013 12:48 |
Alviegal For Ref: Wlliam Wyllie was born 12 Mar 1851 and baptized in Mauchline Ayrshire on 23 Mar 1851 Hs parents were Hugh Wyllie and Christina Allison They also had a son called George
Oh Oh. Just realised that they were still in Ayrshire at 1873. Birth of a daughter! Son William would be 22yrs old at this time and if he travelled with his family, it gives only 3yrs to get from Ayrshire to NZ to NSW,
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Cherilyn
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7 May 2013 11:32 |
Thanks for trying!!!
Got an email back but all he knew is that the birthdate comes from a book about the Trevena family by a family researcher. Very distant connection for him.
Have tried sending an email to another researcher but no reply yet.
Have found a contact number for the author of the book so might have to pluck up the courage to call him in SA (lucky I have VOIP!)
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