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Is the birth that I posted for your Mother correct?

Birth end of 1919, registered in 1920:

Births Mar 1920
Owen Mary Owen Barton I. 8c 1360

Hello Dea

I wish it was correct but it cannot as my Mum was born in 1919 and is one of 4 children. The youngest child,William Owen was born in 1929.

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1911 census transcription details for: 98 Higher Road Urmston
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN23629 RG78PN1376 RD463 SD3 ED7 SN342
Reg. District: Barton upon Irwell
Sub District: Stretford
Parish: Urmston
Enum. District: 7
Address: 98 Higher Road Urmston
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
OWEN, James Head Married M 49 1862 Commission Agent Lymm Cheshire
OWEN, Elizabeth Ann Wife Married 20 years F 46 1865 Urmston Lanc
OWEN, William Son Single M 18 1893 Assisting In The Business Urmston Lanc

Married 20 years - only 1 child.

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I was a bit worried about the occupations above but 1901 shows that they dealt in 'Vegetables' so I believe it is the correct family:

1901 census transcription details for: 98, Higher Road, Urmston
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 3667
Folio: 128
Page: 3
Reg. District: Barton upon Irwell
Sub District: Stretford
Parish: Urmston
Enum. District: 27
Ecclesiastical District: Urmston St Clement
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 98, Higher Road, Urmston
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
OWEN, James Head Married M 38 1863 Commission Agent (Vegetable)
Lymm, Cheshire
OWEN, Lizzie A Wife Married F 35 1866
Urmston, Lancashire
OWEN, William B Son M 8 1893
Urmston, Lancashire


Dea x

This, I believe, would be Alex's Grandparents wedding but this makes her grandfather a William (not a James), and her great grandfather a James? - Or have I got confused somewhere?

Marriage: 8 May 1918 St Mary, Great Sankey, Lancashire, England
William Owen - 26, Produce Merchant, Bachelor, Urmston
Mary Owen - 28, Spinster, Sankey
Groom's Father: James Owen, Decd., Produce Merchant
Bride's Father: Thomas Owen, Decd., Farmer
Witness: John McHale; Lucy Farks
Married by Licence by: J.R. Jones Vicar
Register: Marriages 1913 - 1925, Page 48, Entry 96
Source: LDS Film 2147231

Dea x

As Alex is a new poster, I have sent her a friendly message on how to return to her thread. :-)

Urmston comes under Barton for the years in question, which is why I posted the 1920 and 1890 births.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/barton%20upon%20irwell.html

Urmston is a town within the Metropolitan Borough of Trafford, in Greater Manchester, England, in Lancashire, it lies about six miles (10 km) to the southwest of Manchester city centre. The southern boundary is marked by the River Mersey and the Mersey Valley, with Stretford lying to the east and Flixton to the west. Davyhulme lies to the north of the town centre

This birth would cover Urmston:

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Mary Owen
Mother's Maiden Surname: Owen
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1920
Registration district: Barton I
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 1360

Without breaching Alex's privacy, I think her father was born 1918 (not that it's particularly relevant)

EDIT: Sorry Patchem - see you'd already posted this.

Is this your mother's birth ?

Births Jun 1919
Owen Mary - Smith - Chorlton 8c 1076


Chorlton covers Urmston

Alex has James Owen, 1890, in her tree.

Same Family in 1911


1911 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 3 Chadwick Lane Urmston
Parish Urmston
Town Urmston
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 3 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN23628 RG78PN1376 RD463 SD3 ED6 SN330
Administrative County Lancashire
Registration District Barton Upon Irwell
Registration Sub District Stretford
Enumeration District 6
Householder 1
Name John Tomas Owen
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 48
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Occupation Labour Road Sweeper
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Davyhulme Urban Council
Place of Birth Urmston Lancashire
Householder 2
Name Bertha Owen
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 18 Years
Total Children Born Alive 9
Children Still Living 6
Children Who Have Died 3
Gender F
Age 38
Estimated Year of Birth 1873
Occupation House Work At Home
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Moulton Cheshire
Householder 3
Name John Owen
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1895
Occupation Attendant Profession
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Hotel
Place of Birth Flixton Lancashire
Householder 4
Name James Owen
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1896
Occupation Labourer Factory
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Cotton Mill
Place of Birth Flixton Lancashire
Householder 5
Name Ernest Owen
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1897
Occupation Labourer Business
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Station Book Shell At Fract Staff
Place of Birth Flixton Lancashire
Householder 6
Name Bertha Owen
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1902
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Urmston Lancashire
Householder 7
Name Elizebtha Owen
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1904
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Urmston Lancashire
Householder 8
Name Gladys Owen
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1909
Occupation Infant
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Urmston Lancashire

For consideration

1901 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 3 Chadwick Lane
Civil Parish Urmston
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Urmston St Clement
Parliamentary Borough or Division Eccles S E Lance
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Urmston
Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1
Name Bertha Owen
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 28
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Charwoman
Employment Status
Where Born Cheshire Maullon
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Ernest Owen
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Lancs Fliston
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name James Owen
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 5
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Lancs Fliston
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name John Owen
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 7
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Lancs Fliston
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name John J Owen
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 38
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation General Agrecultl Labourer
Employment Status
Where Born Lancs Urmston
Language
Infirmity

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Births Mar 1890
Owen Mary Alice Barton I. 8c 649

connected?

James Owen, "England and Wales Census, 1851"

Name: James Owen
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Birthplace: Urmston, Lancashire
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Schedule Type: Household

This would be Mary's birth ??

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1919
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

OWEN Mary Stretford Trafford STR/96/61

Dea x

EDIT - wrong one - it would be the one reg in 1920 above !

patchem
Whoops wrong one Deleted

connected?

James Owen, "England and Wales Census, 1851"

Name: James Owen
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Birthplace: Urmston, Lancashire
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Schedule Type: Household

Interesting:
Births Mar 1920
Owen Mary Owen Barton I. 8c 1360

Alex has Mary Owen 1919 and Mary Owen 1890 in her tree.
No places of birth.

Hello Alex, welcome to the boards.

If you find your mum's birth record then obtaining a copy of her birth certificate will tell you more about her father.

Also, if she wasn't close to her father, what about her mother? can you tell us anything about her - it might help us track your grandfather.