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19 Apr 2013 23:03 |
Same family in 1851.
I have to confess I was hoping he might have had a child of Edward's and Elizabeth's living or working with him, to provide a connection, but it's not gonna be that easy! :-(
Address: 23a, Georges Place, Islington, Finsbury County: Middlesex
CHISNALL, Thomas Head Married M 69 1782 Beer Shop Keeper, House Proprieter Kennington CHISNALL, Sarah M Wife Married F 62 1789 Beer Shop Keeper, House Proprieter's Wife Clerkenwell, Middlesex CHISNALL, Josephine Daughter Unmarried F 29 1822 At Home Islington, Middlesex CHISNALL, William Son Unmarried M 27 1824 Traveller Islington, Middlesex CHISNALL, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829 At Home Islington, Middlesex
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19 Apr 2013 23:00 |
Thomas and Sarah [Maria] in 1841:
Address: Grove, St Mary Islington, Finsbury
CHISNALL, Thomas M 60 1781 Middlesex Painter CHISNALL, Sarah F 50 1791 Middlesex CHISNALL, Eleanor F 25 1816 Middlesex Dressmaker CHISNALL, Josephine F 19 1822 Middlesex CHISNALL, William M 17 1824 Middlesex CHISNALL, George M 14 1827 Middlesex CHISNALL, Elizabeth F 12 1829 Middlesex ELLSWORTH, John M 32 1809 Middlesex ELLSWORTH, Mary F 22 1819 Middlesex ELLSWORTH, Mary Ann F 1 1840 Middlesex
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19 Apr 2013 22:32 |
Chidren of Edward and second wife Elizabeth Babbington?
Father a victualler. Address Dalby Terrace.
Edward born Dec 25th 1816.
Elizabeth born Sept 9th 1815.
Name: Edward Chisnall Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 27 Apr 1817 Father's Name: Edward Chisnall Mother's Name: Elizabeth Chisnall Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Name: Elizabeth Chisnall Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 27 Apr 1817 Father's Name: Edward Chisnall Mother's Name: Elizabeth Chisnall Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Father a publican. Address City Road. Birthdate Dec 13th 1817
Name: George James Chisnall Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 14 Jan 1818 Father's Name: Edward Chisnall Mother's Name: Elizabeth Chisnall Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Born Oct 9th 1819. Address Dalby Terrace. Father a publican.
Name: Caroline Ann Chisnall Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 29 May 1820 Father's Name: Edward Chisnall Mother's Name: Elizabeth Chisnall Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
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19 Apr 2013 22:22 |
Thomas is described as a coachman on baptism of his son Edward in 1815
Edward Chisnall 11 Jan 1815 Thomas Chisnall, Maria Chisnall Islington St Mary Islington
A painter on baptism of Caroline, Eleanor, Mary Ann, Josephine
Caroline Chisnall 22 Oct 1820 Thomas Chisnall,Maria Chisnall Islington St Mary Islington
Eleanor Chisnall 27 Feb 1823 Thomas Chisnall, Maria Chisnall Islington St Mary Islington
Josephine Chisnall 27 Feb 1823 Thomas Chisnall,Maria Chisnall Islington St Mary Islington
Mary Ann Chisnall 27 Feb 1823 Thomas Chisnall, Maria Chisnall Islington St Mary Islington
He's a plumber and glazier for birth of son Thomas William:
Thomas William Chisnall 18 Apr 1824 Thomas Chisnall,Maria Chisnall Islington St Mary Islington
and back to being a painter for baptism of son George.
George Chisnall 3 Sep 1826 Thomas Chisnall, Maria Chisnall Islington St Mary Islington
Children pre1812 didn't have father's occupation recorded.
Ellena Maria Chisnell Baptism 27 Oct 1811 St Pancras Old Church, Middlesex Thomas Chisnell, Maria Chisnell
Thomas Edward Chisnall Christening 8 Oct 1809 St Mary, Islington, Middlesex Thomas Chisnall, Maria Chisnall
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19 Apr 2013 22:12 |
You probably have this. On the image she is described as a widow, so I suspect she is Thomas Chisnall's spouse Sarah/Maria nee Tolley that you mentioned previously.
Name: Sarah Chisnall Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1862 Burial Date: 11 Jul 1862 Age: 78 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784 Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Parish Chapel Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Thomas Chisnell Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1856 Burial Date: 21 Jan 1856 Age: 74 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782 Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras St James Borough: Camden Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
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19 Apr 2013 21:55 |
I have to admit I don't have a particular 'feel' for this family, other than I felt (and you have confirmed), that the Edward Chisnall who married Elizabeth Williams is the widowed Edward Chisnall who later married Elizabeth Babbington.
In this instance I simply posted anything that might be relevant to the names you posted, in the hopes that you, or more skilled helpers than I, would evaluate it, and might be able make something of it.
The Edward Chisnell who became a freeman, was either a goldsmith, or his father Thomas was one (I found the phrasing unclear as to which one of the two the description belonged to.
The father of Thomas 1770 and Edward 1771 was described on the baptism register as a carpenter, I didn't know if this correlated with anything you knew about the family.
The baptism of Edward 1771 says 'of the parish of Hornsey', which is why I posted the two deaths in that Parish in 1780 and 1781. As no ages were given, I have no idea whether either, neither, or both, related to the lads baptised in 1770 and 1771. If the Thomas who died in 1780 were the one baptised in 1770, then it is quite possible his parents recycled the name for another offspring.
I was hoping other helpers would pitch in and help this thread get going...
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19 Apr 2013 19:35 |
Kucinta
Thank you for sending that. I haven' seen it before, although I am not too sure if it tells me anything!!
In my tree I have an Edward Chisnall b 1771 - 1836 who married an Elizabeth Williams and then an Elizabeth Babbington. I understand that this Edward had a brother Thomas Chisnall born 1782 - 1856 who married a (Sarah) Maria Tolley.
I think it is possible that Edward b1771 Highgate may be the same person ... although he already had a brother Thomas bap 25/3/1770. He may have died young and hence Thomas born 1782 came along.
It is of course possible that "my" Edward born 1771 - 1836 is not a brother of Thomas Chisnall b 1782 - 1856 at all ...as there is a quite a large time gap ..11 years or so. If I remember I got this info from a will ... Any thoughts would be appreciated.
.. I was interested in Thomas Chisnall marrying Ann Hitch .. but this was in 1794, and I don't know who they are!!
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks
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19 Apr 2013 12:40 |
Thank you. I am trying to find the parents of Edward Chisnall b 1771 who married Elizabeth Williams and wondering if it could be Thomas and Ann. I will have a look through the info you have kindly provided over the weekend.
thank you
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18 Apr 2013 23:23 |
?????
Name: Thomas Chisnell Spouse Name: Ann Hitch Record Type: Banns Event Date: 19 May 1794 Parish: Rotherhithe St Mary Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses hard to read, James Drury or Davey and John Car---hill?
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18 Apr 2013 23:16 |
??? London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Edward Chisnall Spouse Name: Elizabeth Williams Record Type: Banns Event Date: 30 Oct 1800 Parish: St Andrew Holborn Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses [Illegible] Wlliams & Mary Smith
The Edward in marriage below is a widower:
Name: Edward Chisnall Spouse Name: Elizabeth Bebbington Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 15 Sep 1814 Parish: Westminster St Martin in the Fields Borough: Westminster Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Witnesses John Williams & Elizabeth Taylor
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18 Apr 2013 23:06 |
London, England, Freedom of the City Admission Papers, 1681-1925
Name: Edward Chisnall Birth Date: 1771 Admission Date: 1800 Father's Name: Thomas Chisnall
...Edward Chisnall, son of Thomas Chisnall citizen and goldsmith ....came before the Chamberlain the day and year aforesaid and desired to be admitted to the freedom of this city by patrimony, in the said company of [Blank] because he is legitimate and was born after the admission of his father into the said freedom...
Can pm you a copy of the image if you're interested?
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18 Apr 2013 23:04 |
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Name: Edward Chisnall Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1836 Burial Date: 11 May 1836 Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1771 Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Register
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18 Apr 2013 22:53 |
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No age given.
Name: Edward Chisnell Burial Date: 2 Sep 1781 Parish: St Mary, Hornsey County: Middlesex Borough: Haringey Record Type: Burial Register Type: Parish Register
Again, no age given..
Name: Thos Chisnel Burial Date: Feb 1780 Parish: St Mary, Hornsey County: Middlesex Borough: Haringey Record Type: Burial Register Type: Parish Register
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18 Apr 2013 22:48 |
Just for info
Name: Thomas Chisnell Baptism Date: 25 Mar 1770 Parish: St Michael, Highgate County: Middlesex Borough: Camden Parent(s): Thomas Chisnell, Ann Chisnell Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
Father was a carpenter
Name: Edward Chisnell Baptism Date: 29 May 1771 Parish: St Michael, Highgate County: Middlesex Borough: Camden Parent(s): Thomas Chisnell, Ann Chisnell Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
Of Hornsey parish. Father a carpenter
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18 Apr 2013 22:40 |
I am looking for any information on Thomas Chisnell, bap 25/3/1770, St Micheal Highgate, Middlesex; and his brother Edward Chisnell, bap 1771 Highgate, parents Thomas Chisnell and Ann unknown.
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Martin
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