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Pete - not that it's anything to do with your guy, but did you know the process for making newsprint from wood pulp was invented by a Canadian?
http://www.123rf.com/photo_9385304_canada--circa-1987-stamp-printed-by-canada-shows-charles-fenerty-newsprint-circa-1987.html

Here he is in 1891 - seeing as his h/h is h/h #1, you might guess (correctly) he's the enumerator:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148117-00014.pdf

Thanks for the offer!

another line of enquiry could be his probate record, might say where his pension was coming from

Name: Albert Edward Bagnall
Probate Date: 28 Aug 1931
Death Date: 17 May 1931
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England
Original data: Principal Probate Registry. Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England.

Thank you Vicci, I knew that I would get a good lead from this post and that is it, if they do not have the info I think I may be out of luck! If I was not married I would propose, Luv you and thank you very much
Det Pete Wraight 1 dist drug squad M.T.P.D. (retired)

I am aware that he did well financially, that is quite evident in photographs prior to his death whether that helps to identify his employer I am not sure.

try trade union archives
e.g.
Platen Printing Machine Minders Society
Reference:
FS 11/35
Description:

(1) Before 1930: Platen Printing Machine Minders Society
Date:
1892-1924
Held by:
The National Archives, Kew
Former references:
in its original department: Reg. no. 773T

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National Union of Printing, Bookbinding and Paper Workers
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The National Union of Printing, Bookbinding and Paper Workers was a British trade union.

The union was founded in 1921 as the National Union of Printing, Bookbinding, Machine Ruling and Paper Workers when the National Union of Bookbinders and Machine Rulers and the National Union of Printing and Paper Workers merged. The Platen Printing Machine Minders' Society and the London Society of Machine Rulers soon also joined. In 1926, its central London branch broke away, but rejoined in 1931. In 1928, the union dropped "machine ruling" from its name.

By 1960, the union over 160,000 members. Following mergers with several small unions, in 1966 it joined with the National Society of Operative Printers and Assistants to form the Society of Graphical and Allied Trades.

yes I know he lived in Shoreditch, sorry but I live in Canada so do not know all the areas in London, my electricity was out for a while and just came back on, I do watch the threads in real time. My quest is simply to find his employer and then to make enquiries re his employment, a stretch I am sure, only a mention from a relative indicated that he was employed by a big newspaper in London but that was back in the 60,s and may have no relevance. A platum hand would indicate a large machine, not one you would find in a small shop, so my thinking runs toward a large printing business. I am aware that in those days people did not live to far from where they worked, but again I am at a disadvantage re where I live, perhaps someone from the local area holds the clue that I need.
cheers
Detective Wraight M.T.P.D. (retired)

Some of my friends now live in a converted print works near the Regents Canal in part of Hoxton, on the map not that far from the address at Fellows Street on the census mentioned by Glitter Baby

I imagine there were lots of them around that area

J

Mezzogravure Co. Ltd.

In 1910, Edward Hunter and J.A. (Archie) Hughes set up the Mezzogravure Co. in Barnes, Middlesex, and there they ran experiments on, and refined, the revolutionary process of rotary photogravure printing. It was the beginning of the photogravure work for which the Sun Engraving Co., and ultimately Sun Printers, would become famous. The work was done behind locked doors with a small staff sworn to secrecy. There was no unauthorized access. Possessed of a good knowledge of the process for hand-plate gravure, a small master screen, and a 15 in. calico printing machine made by John Wood of Ramsbottom, Hunter, Hughes, and works director John Threlfall (originally of Waddingtons, the Croydon photo engravers) were soon producing fine prints – chiefly calendar subjects and frontispieces for high-quality books – that won raves for their ‘rich velvet quality, the amazing depth of tone, and the inimitable shadow detail.’ The extraordinary work coming out of Barnes had a revolutionary effect on the rest of the trade, and the wider world began to take notice. During WWI the company was hired by the government to print a photogravure background on the nation’s food tickets, to make them hard to copy. The Mezzogravure Co. was absorbed into the Sun Engraving Co. around 1918.

I don't know if it's relevant, but in 1911 there were 3 men living in the same road with similar occupations - 2 printer compositors and one 'Printing Machine Manager Printing Works'. People more often worked near to their workplace back then. I wonder if by chance there might have been just one printing works nearby? And if so maybe he worked there rather than on a newspaper? Just a thought!
Jan

Name: Albert Edwd Bagnall
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
Gender: Male
Age: 9
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Tottenham, Middlesex
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub-District: West Battersea
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary
Parish: Battersea
County: London, Middlesex

Small point but he was living in Shoreditch in 1911

I am trying to find out if possible where my Grandfather worked, he was born in 1891 and was employed according to Marriage Death cert and census as a Platum Reel Hand, a Printers helper, or printers assistant. He was born and lived his entire life in Tottenham, Finsbury, Edmonton Middlesex area, Wife Rosalia Bagnall nee smith, children Leonard Percy Bagnall (born Andrews) Rosalia, Kate E, Edith Frances, Henry Cornelius, and James William, He worked for a newspaper possibly the times but not certain of that I do know that he lived at 27 Spencer rd at birth 218 Risley Ave at death and 111 Gospatrick Road, 33 Carlingford Road with his wife & children, I do have all the birth & death records for his entire family and am simply attempting to get his work history from whomever he was employed by if possible. I have done this with other relatives and have had amazing results, i.e. I have his Grandfathers record of employment with the Met Police, Thank you for your assistance, if it was not for this site I would not have a lot of information, cheers
Pete Wraight,
Canader, the cold white north
Bracebridge, Ont