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MarieCeleste
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18 Apr 2013 22:54 |
Hi Val, yes I did.
Sorry that it wasn't all good news ....
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Valerie
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18 Apr 2013 21:06 |
Hi, I hope you have received my other responses.
Many thanks for all the information.
Val.
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MarieCeleste
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18 Apr 2013 20:49 |
pms from Val acknowledge information has been seen.
Val, if you look further down there's a box that says "Add your reply" - just type your messages in there and then hit the submit button.
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MarieCeleste
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18 Apr 2013 20:41 |
Looks like Annie Baker was a loyal servant, she was still with him in 1911:
ALLEN, Walker Head Married M 43 1868 Tin Smith Birstall BAKES, Annie Servant Single F 40 1871 Housekeeper Yorkshire
RG number: RG14 Piece: 27265 Reference: RG14PN27265 RG78PN1558 RD503 SD4 ED3 SN181 Registration District: Dewsbury Sub District: Liversedge Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Heckmondwike
Address: 9 Oak Street Heckmondwike County: Yorkshire (West riding)
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MarieCeleste
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18 Apr 2013 20:34 |
This version of the 1891 census shows the full family:
ALLEN, Walker Head Married M 29 1862 Tinner Birstall, Yorkshire ALLEN, Rachel Wife Married F 37 1854 Liversedge, Yorkshire CROWTHER, Ada Daughter Single F 14 1877 Machinist Liversedge, Yorkshire CROWTHER, Ernest Son Single M 16 1875 Tinner Liversedge, Yorkshire CROWTHER, Franklin Son M 12 1879 Tinner Liversedge, Yorkshire ALLEN, Sophia Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Heckmondwike, Yorkshire ALLEN, Lily Daughter F 3 1888 Scholar Heckmondwike, Yorkshire ALLEN, Mabel Daughter F 0 (5M) 1891 Heckmondwike, Yorkshire
Piece: 3724 Folio: 114 Page: 13 Registration District: Dewsbury Civil Parish: Heckmondwike Municipal Borough: Heckmondwike
Address: Oak Street, Heckmondwike County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Looks like they had an attempt at reconciliation and Mabel was the result of it.
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MarieCeleste
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18 Apr 2013 20:27 |
Oh dear, the following possibly explains why Walker Allen isn't with his wife on the 1901 and the 1911 census:
The Leeds Times dated 29 March 1890 carries an article about Walker Allen, tinner of Oak Street, Heckmondwike who was charged with assaulting his wife.
His conduct was stated as very unsteady and violent of late.
He had been out drinking all night and when he returned he beat his wife leaving her badly bruised. His penalty was a 40s fine plus costs or 1 month in prison.
Previous mistreatment was proven and a separation order was granted under which he had to pay 12s per week for his wife and 2 children.
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MarieCeleste
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18 Apr 2013 20:07 |
This seems to be the probate for the Walker Allen who died 1942:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Name: Walker Allen Probate Date: 4 Sep 1942 Death Date: 4 Aug 1942 Death Place: Yorkshire, England Registry: Wakefield
Lived 16 Hill Top Estate, Heckmondwike. Died Staincliffe Institution, Dewsbury. Probate granted to Ernest Easter, works manager. Effects £156 16s 8d
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MarieCeleste
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18 Apr 2013 19:51 |
Walker and Rachel's marriage with further info:
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Walker Allen, bachelor - a tinner Birth Year: abt 1862 Age: 21 Marriage or Bann Date: 27 May 1883 Parish: Birstall, St Peter Father's Name: Thomas Allen - a miner Spouse's Name: Rachel Crowther (29) - a widow Spouse's Father's Name: William Sinkinson (deceased) - a joiner
Witnesses: John Bolton and Hannah Walker
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patchem
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18 Apr 2013 19:37 |
1901 England Census Walker Allen Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Birstall, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Heckmondwike Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Heckmondwike County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Liversedge ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 146 Piece: 4261 Folio: 137 Page Number: 20 Walker Allen 37 tinner and copper smith Married Annie Baker 37 Servant Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4261; Folio: 137; Page: 20.
? Walker Allen Birth Date: abt 1863 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1942 Age at Death: 79 Registration district: Dewsbury Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9b Page: 532
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Mike *
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18 Apr 2013 19:35 |
1871
Thomas Allen 39 Betsey Allen 38 Alfred Allen 17 John Allen 15 Lousia Allen 13 Israel Allen 11 Walker Allen 9 Andrew Allen 5 Fergus Allen 3 Rose A Allen 2 Months
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Mike *
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18 Apr 2013 19:33 |
1881
Thos. Allen 49 --Hemley Moor, Yorkshire Betsy Allen 49 Birstall, Yorkshire- Israel Allen 21 Walker Allen 19 <<<< Andrew Allen 15 Fergus Allen 13 Rose Ann Allen 10 Thos. Allen 8 Walter Allen 6
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patchem
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18 Apr 2013 19:32 |
1901 England Census Mable Allen Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Rachael Allen Gender: Female Where born: Heckmondwike, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Heckmondwike Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Heckmondwike County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Liversedge ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 236 Piece: 4261 Folio: 144 Page Number: 34 Rachael Allen 47 married Liversedge Sophia Allen 17 Lily Allen 13 Mable Allen 10 Albert V Allen 8 William Coates 40 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4261; Folio: 144; Page: 34.
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18 Apr 2013 19:31 |
Name: Walker Allen Birth Year: abt 1862 Age: 21 Marriage or Bann Date: 27 May 1883 Parish: Birstall, St Peter Father's Name: Thomas Allen Spouse's Name: Rachel Crowther Spouse's Father's Name: William Sinkinson
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EVEIE
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18 Apr 2013 19:31 |
Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Allen Walker Dewsbury 9b 701
CROWTHER Rachel Dewsbury 9b 701
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18 Apr 2013 19:31 |
1891
Name: Walker Allen Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Rachel Allen Gender: Male Where born: Birstall, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Heckmondwike Ecclesiastical parish: Heckmondwike St James Town: Heckmondwike County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Liversedge
Walker Allen 29 Rachel Allen 37
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18 Apr 2013 19:28 |
A tree on ancestry has this ....
Mabel Allen
Birth 1891 in Liversedge West Yorkshire England
parents Walker Allen 1862 – Rachel Sinkinson 1853
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EVEIE
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18 Apr 2013 19:26 |
1901 England Census about Mable Allen
Name: Mable Allen Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name:Rachael Allen Gender: Female Where born: Heckmondwike, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Heckmondwike Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Heckmondwike County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Liversedge ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 236 Piece: 4261 Folio: 144 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age Rachael Allen 47 Sophia Allen 17 Lily Allen 13 Mable Allen 10 Albert V Allen 8 William Coates 40 >>>> boarder
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patchem
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18 Apr 2013 19:22 |
What sort of information are you looking for? Have you found her in the censuses? Did anyone reply on the previous thread, or did the incorrect information defeat them?
Added: Valerie was 100 years out with her information previously, which did make searching difficult.
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EVEIE
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18 Apr 2013 19:20 |
1911 England Census about Mabel Allen
Name: Mabel Allen
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Heckmondwike
Civil parish: Heckmondwike
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 30 Upper George St Heckmondwike
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Winder Whitchead Worsted
Registration district: Dewsbury
Registration District Number: 503
Sub-registration district: Liversedge
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 27265
Household Members:
Name
Age
Rachel Allen 57 Sophia Allen 27 Lily Allen 23 Mabel Allen 20 Albert Allen 18 Herbert Allen 5
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Valerie
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18 Apr 2013 19:06 |
I recently posted a request for any information on Mabel Allen born in Hecmondwike, this time I have the CORRECT dates Born 1891 Death 1914 she was interred at Liversedg Parish Church. Age 23. Also any information on Walker Allen who I believe was her father born 1861. Many thanks. Val. :-D
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