Today I have received the probate for Elizabeth Downham b.1819 who it says married George Farrar - I checked family search and found the following details
29/11/1840 Pontefract, West Yorkshire, England
Please could I ask for help in locating any possible children for this couple
Thanks
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so did she marry George farrah before Mr Downham, or was Downham her maiden name - in which case, why was her probate for Downham
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1841 census transcription details for: Woodrow Hill, Methley Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1269 Book/Folio: 3/15 Page: 1 Reg. District: Pontefract Sub District: Kippax Parish: Methley Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Woodrow Hill, Methley County: Yorkshire Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born FARRER, George M 20 1821 joiner Yorkshire FARRER, Elizth F 20 1821 Yorkshire FARRER, Charles M 0 (3 months) 1841 Yorkshire
1851 census transcription details for: Methley Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 2329 Folio: 62 Page: 28 Reg. District: Pontefract Sub District: Kippax Parish: Methley Enum. District: 1D Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Methley County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born FARRER, George Head Married M 31 1820 Shop Keeper Stanley, Yorkshire FARRER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 32 1819 Buckland, Yorkshire FARRER, Charles Son M 10 1841 Scholar Methley, Yorkshire FARRER, Mary Ann Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar Methley, Yorkshire FARRER, George Son M 2 1849 Methley, Yorkshire
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Sorry I miss wrote the probate included her - the probate was that of her fathers. Sorry
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That marriage - slightly different spelling.
Name: Elizabeth Dounam Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1840 Registration district: Pontefract Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume Number: 22 Page Number: 343 (George Farrar
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Day:29
Month:Nov
Year:1840
Groom forenames:George
Groom surname:FARRER
Groom's parish:Pontefract
Groom's condition:Bachelor
Groom's occupation:Carpenter
Groom's age:Full
Bride forenames:Elizabeth
Bride surname:DOWNHAM
Bride's parish:Pontefract
Bride's condition:Spinster
Bride's occupation:
Bride's age:Full
Place:Pontefract
Description:St. Giles
County:Yorkshire West Riding
Country:England
Checked:No
Notes:
Record source:Pontefract District Marriages Find out more
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William in 1851
1851 census transcription details for: Lingwell Gate, Stanley With Wrenthorpe Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 2326 Folio: 623 Page: 9 Reg. District: Wakefield Sub District: Stanley Parish: Stanley with Wrenthorpe Enum. District: 1N Ecclesiastical District: Stanley City/Municipal Borough: Address: Lingwell Gate, Stanley With Wrenthorpe County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born FARRAR, Maria Head Widow F 54 1797 Cattle Dealer Widow Wakefield, Yorkshire FARRAR, Edward Son Unmarried M 33 1818 Cattle Dealer Wakefield, Yorkshire SPEIGHT, Mary Visitor Unmarried F 74 1777 Wakefield, Yorkshire FARRAR, William Visitor M 8 1843 Methley, Yorkshire
1861 census transcription details for: Lingwell Gate, Wakefield Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 3421 Folio: 42 Page: 20 Reg. District: Wakefield Sub District: 3 Stanley Parish: Wakefield Stanley cum Wrenthorpe Enum. District: 12 Ecclesiastical District: Stanley City/Municipal Borough: Address: Lingwell Gate, Wakefield Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born FARROW, George Head Widower M 38 1823 Carpenter Stanley, Yorkshire FARROW, William Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Carpenters Apprentice Methley, Yorkshire FARROW, Edward Son M 9 1852 Scholar Methley, Yorkshire
11 year old George is in the next household.
881 census transcription details for: Leadwell Lane, Lofthouse With Carlton Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 4584 Folio: 71 Page: 41 Reg. District: Wakefield Sub District: Ardsley Parish: Lofthouse with Carlton Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Leadwell Lane, Lofthouse With Carlton County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born FARRAR, George Head Widower M 59 1822 Carpenter Ardsley, Yorkshire FARRAR, William Son Single M 36 1845 Joiner Ardsley, Yorkshire
1891 census transcription details for: Spring Well Cottages, Leadwell Lane, Carlton Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 3755 Folio: 73 Page: 39 Reg. District: Wakefield Sub District: Ardsley Parish: Enum. District: 8 Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch City/Municipal Borough: Address: Spring Well Cottages, Leadwell Lane, Carlton County: Yorkshire (West Riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born FARRAR, George Head Married (should be widowed) M 68 1823 Living On Own Means Stanley, Yorkshire FARRAR, William Son Single M 44 1847 Joiner Wrenthorpe, Yorkshire
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a bit puzzled about the timescale here Mark
Elizabeth Downham was of full age on that marriage in 1840 ie born at the latest 1819 so her father would have been born around 1800 or before and yet his will was not proved until 1919???
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Civil Registration event: Death Print Close Name: FARRER, Elizabeth Registration district: Pontefract County: Yorkshire Year of registration: 1857 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Volume no: 9C Page no: 40
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Thank you ***alviegal*** I may of slipped up with relationship but definitely correct family
Elizabeth - my relation married George Farrar...
Elizabeth Downham 1819 father is Reuben 1779 Reuben's sister Frances Downham 1804 is my 4 x great grandmother
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West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Edward Farrer Name: Edward Farrer Birth Date: 26 Oct 1851 Parish: Methley, St Oswald Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1852 Father's Name: George Farrer Mother's Name: Elisabeth Farrer
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about William Thomas Farrar Name: William Thomas Farrar Parish: East Ardsley, St Michael Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1842 Father's Name: George Farrar Mother's Name: Elizabeth Farrar
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Elizabeth Farrer Name: Elizabeth Farrer Birth Date: 19 Aug 1847 Parish: Methley, St Oswald Baptism Date: 30 Oct 1847 Father's Name: George Farrer Mother's Name: Elisabeth Farrer
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about George Farrer Name: George Farrer Birth Date: 22 Jan 1849 Parish: Methley, St Oswald Baptism Date: 16 Mar 1849 Father's Name: George Farrer Mother's Name: Elisabeth Farrer
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Charles Farrer Name: Charles Farrer Birth Date: 7 Mar 1841 Parish: Methley, St Oswald Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1841 Father's Name: George Farrer Mother's Name: Elizabeth Farrer
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Mary Ann Farrer Name: Mary Ann Farrer Parish: Methley, St Oswald Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1844 Father's Name: George Farrer Mother's Name: Elizabeth Farrer
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so what is the relevance of the 1919 probate please Mark
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I ordered the probate as I believe it would name his children which it has...
Reuben Downham father of Elizabeth Downham who married George Farrar...
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many apologies Mark. I must need new glasses. I misread your opening post as probate 1919 not Eliz born 1819
How did I manage that??
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