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8 Apr 2013 21:27 |
Sources for alviegal 13:06 8/4/13 hits https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ8R-M24 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ1H-RZ9 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQX4-BB9 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ47-2Z9 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F7CS-YN5
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Potty
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8 Apr 2013 14:33 |
Agreed. alviegal, Carl needs to get the marriage cert.
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alviegal
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8 Apr 2013 14:22 |
Didn't even notice that Potty! Does sound as if it could be them but Peter's marriage certificate would clarify all this. :-)
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8 Apr 2013 13:24 |
Well done alviegal!
Was a bit worried to see Agnes in 1891 shown as widow when Robert was still alive in 1911! Checked the image and it looks as if Widow was changed to Married (or it could have been the other way around!)
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8 Apr 2013 13:06 |
Children born to Robert and Agnes.
Agnes Cowie Or Inglis
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 17 Jan 1867 LEITH,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
parents:Robert Cowie, Agnes Inglis
Robert Cowie
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 23 Feb 1873 MEIGLE,PERTH,SCOTLAND
parents:Robert Cowie, Agnes Inglis
William Cowie Or Inglis
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 17 Jan 1867 LEITH,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
parents:Robert Cowie, Agnes Inglis
Agnes Cumming Cowie
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 24 May 1871 BLAIRGOWRIE,PERTH,SCOTLAND
parents:Robert Cowie, Agnes Inglis
Francis Barclay Cowie
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 12 Oct 1868 EDINBURGH PARISH,EDINBURGH,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
parents:Robert Cowie, Agnes Inglis
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alviegal
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8 Apr 2013 12:37 |
There is a death for a 3 year old Francis in Bairgowrie, 1872 on scotlandspeople.
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alviegal
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8 Apr 2013 12:19 |
Have a look at these.
1871 census transcription details for: 2, Croft Lane, Blairgowrie Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 335 Folio: 5 Page: 22 Reg. District: Blairgowrie Sub District: Parish: Blairgowrie Enum. District: 5 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 2, Croft Lane, Blairgowrie County: Perthshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born >>COWIE, R Head Married M 28 1843 Horse Breaker Macduff, Aberdeenshire COWIE, Agnes Wife Married F 26 1845 Midlothian COWIE, Ann Daughter F 12 1859 Scholar Midlothian >>COWIE, Peter Son M 7 1864 Scholar Midlothian COWIE, Francis Son M 2 1869 England
Peter and Robert are in Newcastle in 1881. The family stayed behind. If Robert was born in MacDuff as it says above, he could also have been a seaman as MacDuff is a fishing village.
1881 census transcription details for: West Bank School Hill, Old Machar Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 1682 Folio: 49 Page: 52 Reg. District: Old Machar Sub District: Parish: Old Machar Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: West Bank School Hill, Old Machar County: Aberdeenshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born COWIE, Agnes Wife Married F 36 1845 Scannear's Wife M S (on ancestry reads seaman) Edinburgh COWIE, Agnes Daughter F 9 1872 Scholar Blairgowrie, Perthshire COWIE, Robert Son M 8 1873 Scholar Meigle, Perthshire COWIE, William Son M 6 1875 Scholar Meigle, Perthshire COWIE, Catherine Daughter F 3 1878 Newtyle, Perthshire COWIE, Alexander Son M 1 1880
Now the family have moved down to be closer.
1891 census transcription details for: Station Terrace, Cramlington, Cramlington Colliery Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 4235 Folio: 126 Page: 21 Reg. District: Tynemouth Sub District: Earsdon Parish: Cramlington Enum. District: 12 Ecclesiastical District: Cramlington City/Municipal Borough: Address: Station Terrace, Cramlington, Cramlington Colliery County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born COWIE, Agnes Head Widow F 46 1845 Edinburgh, Scotland COWIE, Robert Son Single M 18 1873 Coal Miner Druwcalbie, Scotland COWIE, William Son Single M 16 1875 Coal Miner Druwcalbie, Scotland COWIE, Catherine R Daughter Single F 13 1878 Newtyle, Scotland COWIE, Alexander J Son Single M 11 1880 Scholar Aberdeen, Scotland >>COWIE, David Y Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar Nafferton, Northumberland COWIE, Rachel T Daughter Single F 3 1888 Plessey, Northumberland
Civil Registration event: Death Print Close Name: COWIE, Agnes Registration district: Tynemouth County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1899 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at death: 54 Volume no: 10B Page no: 250
Civil Registration event: Death Print Close Name: COWIE, Agnes Inglis Registration district: Tynemouth County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1900 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 0 Volume no: 10B Page no: 225
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alviegal
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8 Apr 2013 12:14 |
1901 census transcription details for: 39, Wilfred Street, Byker, Newcastle Upon Tyne Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 4788 Folio: 142 Page: 32 Reg. District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Byker Parish: Byker Enum. District: 6 Ecclesiastical District: St Silas City/Municipal Borough: Address: 39, Wilfred Street, Byker, Newcastle Upon Tyne County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born COWIE, Peter Head Married M 38 1863 General Labourer Scotland COWIE, Mary Wife Married F 38 1863 Newcastle on Tyne COWIE, Agnes Daughter Single F 16 1885 Newcastle on Tyne COWIE, James Son M 12 1889 Newcastle on Tyne COWIE, Francess Daughter F 6 1895 Newcastle on Tyne COWIE, Peter Son M 4 1897 Newcastle on Tyne COWIE, Mary Daughter F 2 1899 Newcastle on Tyne ??COWIE, David Brother Single M 16 1885 General Labourer Newcastle on Tyne
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8 Apr 2013 12:08 |
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1891 census transcription details for: Urpeth Hill, Stoney Lane, Urpeth, Pit Hill Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 4122 Folio: 61 Page: 32 Reg. District: Chester Le Street Sub District: Chester Le Street Parish: Urpeth Enum. District: 22 Ecclesiastical District: West Pelton City/Municipal Borough: Address: Urpeth Hill, Stoney Lane, Urpeth, Pit Hill County: Durham Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HUNTER, Mary Head Widow F 32 1859 Dressmaker Pelton, County Durham HUNTER, Ralph C Son Single M 4 1887 Tynemouth, Northumberland CURRY, Dinah Sister Single F 28 1863 Pelton, County Durham DAVISON, Ann Sister Widow F 26 1865 Dressmaker Northallerton, Yorkshire DAVISON, Sydney Nephew Single M 2 1889 Beamish, County Durham ROBINSON, Thomas Boarder Single M 53 1838 Coal Screener Penrith, Cumberland >>COWIE, Robert Boarder Married M 47 1844 Horse Breaker Scotland
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brummiejan
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8 Apr 2013 11:42 |
I wondered about that one too Potty. Maybe he ran off!! In any case, you need the marriage details to confirm his father's name, assuming he knew it of course. Looks like the death of the above Peter, not that it helps really:
Name: Peter Cowie Birth Date: abt 1863 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1926 Age at Death: 63 Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Inferred County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 181
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Name: Mary Cowie Birth Date: abt 1863 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1935 Age at Death: 72 Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Inferred County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 246
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8 Apr 2013 11:32 |
Looking at the image for the1881, Robert's occupation looks like groom, if so this is possibly him in 1911:
1911 England Census about Robert Cowie Name: Robert Cowie Age in 1911: 69 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation to Head: Inmate Gender: Male Birth Place: Tarvis, Aberdeen, Scotland Civil parish: Elswick County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Stableman Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Registration District Number: 558 Sub-registration district: Elswick ED, institution, or vessel: 36-37 Piece: 30614
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8 Apr 2013 02:29 |
http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/your-council/register-office/historical-searches 1884 CRAWLEY Mary 1884 COWIE Peter Marriage venue - St Cuthbert Register No./Entry No. ECU1/32 http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/475217
This marr record is held by Tyne & Wear Archives, so viewing it there might be a cheaper alternative than buying a copy as an m.cert from the GRO http://www.twmuseums.org.uk/tyne-and-wear-archives.html Newcastle, St Cuthbert with All Saints x 1879-1957 m 1881-1958 http://www.twmuseums.org.uk/userfiles/UG2.pdf
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brummiejan
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7 Apr 2013 22:47 |
Looks like Mary with Agnes 1911:
1911 England Census Name: Mary Dowie Age in 1911: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation to Head: Mother Gender: Female Birth Place: Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Byker County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: 7 St Michaels Road Byker Marital Status: Married Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Registration District Number: 558 Sub-registration district: Byker
Agnes Warren 26 George Warren 6 Mary Warren 4 Mary Dowie 48 James Dowie 22 John Dunn 18
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alviegal
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7 Apr 2013 22:02 |
??? No place of birth though.
1911 census transcription details for: 31 Thames St East Wallsend On-Tyne Print Close
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RG14PN30710 RG78PN1757 RD559 SD1 ED4 SN141 Reg. District: Tynemouth Sub District: Wallsend Parish: Wallsend Enum. District: 4 Address: 31 Thames St East Wallsend On-Tyne County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born WHITE, James Head Widower M 48 1863 Platers Labourer Londonderry Ireland Resident WHITE, Edith Daughter F 13 1898 School Gilbraltar WHITE, Margaret Daughter F 7 1904 School Gilbraltar WHITE, Mary Daughter F 5 1906 Hebburn Colliery Durham COWIE, Peter Boarder Married M 50 1861 Platers Labourer COOK, Mary Housekeeper Single M 22 1889 Wallsend Northumberland
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7 Apr 2013 19:45 |
Thanks Brummiejan,
I think you may be onto something with Robert
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7 Apr 2013 19:31 |
I wonder if Robert is his father??
1881 England Census Name: Peter Cowie Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Newcastle on Tyne All Sts County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: Garth Heads Section 6
Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration district: All Saints
Robert Fraser 43 Isabella Fraser 44 Robert M. Fraser 18 Dorinda A. Fraser 15 Thomas O. Fraser 12 William Fraser 9 George Fraser 6 Peter Mitchell Weir 22 Peter Cowie 18 Robert Cowie 42
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brummiejan
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7 Apr 2013 19:30 |
Unfortunately I can't find him 1911, when he would probably have put his birthplace. Maybe someone else can! Jan
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7 Apr 2013 19:27 |
thanks to all, I'm acting on the info!
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7 Apr 2013 19:21 |
There are too many matching births for that time scale in Scotland,his fathers name could help.
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brummiejan
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7 Apr 2013 19:20 |
Maybe his marriage? If you are trying to trace him back to Scotland you might need the cert:
Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%) Cowie Peter Newcastle T. 10b 83 CRAWLEY Mary Newcastle T 10b 83
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