Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Quick Search

Single word search

Icons

  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

Need help Edward LIddiard around 1800

Page 0 + 1 of 2

  1. 1
  2. 2
  3. »
ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 14:22

I think the marriages you were given for Harriett and Ann were correct.

Looking at Major Walter Liddiard
you think he went to Canada so you need to find evidence.

1891 Address: 33, Randle Street, Tranmere, Birkenhead
LIDDIARD, Henry Head Married M 67 1824 Railway Bookkeeper
Hungerford, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Phillis Wife Married F 60 1831
St Albans, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Mary A Daughter Single F 30 1861 Domestic Servant
Exhall, Warwickshire
LIDDIARD, Claude Son Single M 23 1868 Railway Fireman
Tranmere, Cheshire
LIDDIARD, Major W Son Single M 19 1872 Railway Fireman
Tranmere, Cheshire

1901 Address: 24, Elm Road, Birkenhead
OGDEN, Sarah Wife Married F 49 1852
Marple, Cheshire
LIDDIARD, Major Boarder Single M 28 1873 Locomotive Driver
Birkenhead, Cheshire
KIDWILL, Anne Visitor Single F 28 1873
Alwington, Devonshire

marriage 1904

Major Walter Liddiard Oct-Nov-Dec 1904 Birkenhead Cheshire

Jessie Sparke Oct-Nov-Dec 1904 Birkenhead Cheshire



1911 England Census about Major Walter Liddiard
Name: Major Walter Liddiard
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Tranmere, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Birkenhead
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: 23 Fairfield Rd Tranmere Birkenhead
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Motor Driver Train
Registration district: Birkenhead
Registration District Number: 452
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 22012
Household Members:
Name Age
Major Walter Liddiard 37
Jessie Liddiard 33
Walter Henry Liddiard 5
Dorothy Agnes Liddiard

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Major Walter Liddiard
Name: Major Walter Liddiard
Probate Date: 23 Nov 1928
Death Date: 8 Oct 1928
Death Place: Cheshire, England
Registry: Liverpool, England

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 14:05

I knew it was familiar

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1319845

Colin it is very helpful if you stick to the same thread to save dplication of work and effort.

Looking at your tree I think you may find it helpful to establish more details about the family you have as each record will give more information to confirm your tree.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 13:29

Ann 1839 of this family was in London.


1861 England Census about Ann Liddiard
Name: Ann Liddiard
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Eddington Humperford, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: Stamford Hill
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Stamford Hill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Piece: 153
Folio: 9
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Parker 68
Sarah Parker 73
Eliza Spiller 40
Ann Liddiard 22
Caroline Pryar 38

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 12:49

http://www.hungerfordvirtualmuseum.co.uk/Themes/Schools/Voluntary_Schools/Infant_National-_Eddington/infant_national-_eddington.html

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 12:45

But Henry Edward is not with them.
He would of course be of an age to have left home by 1841.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 12:38

http://www.berksfhs.org.uk/genuki/BRK/WhiteWaltham/

1871 Address: London Road Nursery, Hungerford
LIDDIARD, Edward Head M 68 1803 Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Harriett Wife F 65 1806 Wiltshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 12:30

Looks like your Edward was previously married to Ann

1841 Address: Edington, Hungerford, Edington, Hidden & Newtown, Edington
LIDDIARD, Edward M 35 1806 Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Ann F 35 1806 Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Edward M 8 1833 Berkshire
LIDDIARD, William M 7 1834 Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Sarah F 6 1835 Berkshire
LIDDIARD, George M 4 1837 Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Ann F 3 1838 Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Edgar M 0 (4 months) 1841 Berkshire
HARPER, Sarah F 15 1826

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 12:21

This one is a seedsman so likely your Edward as posted by Potty.

1851 Address: Eddington, Hungerford
LIDDIARD, Edgar Son M 10 1841 Scholar
Hungerford, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Albert Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Hungerford, Berkshire
BUNCE, Caroline Niece F 10 1841 Scholar
Hungerford, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835
Hungerford, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Harriet Wife Married F 44 1807
Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Edward Head Married M 48 1803 Gardeners Seedsman
White Waltham, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, George Son M 14 1837
Hungerford, Berkshire
LIDDIARD, Ann Daughter F 12 1839
Hungerford, Berkshire

I think you have no evidence of a wifes name from your documentation. and have picked up Sarah and Mary from me.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 12:17

OK I have found your tree.

I think this is my Henry.

20-Aug-1826 C Henry LIDDIARD, son of Edward and Mary LIDDIARD of Aldbourne, Weaver 605

1841 Address: High Street, Marlborough St Peter, Marlborough
LIDDIARD, Henry M 13 1828

1851 Address: Market Place, Great Faringdon, Faringdon
LIDDIARD, Henry Servant Unmarried M 24 1827 Grocers Apprentice
Aldbourne, Wiltshire

1861 Address: Block Green, Great Faringdon, Faringdon
LIDDIARD, Henry Head Married M 34 1827 Chease Foster
Aldbourne, Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Elizabeth Wife Married F 41 1820
Bere Regis, Dorset
TURLE, Ellen Servant Unmarried F 20 1841 House Servant
Wallingford, Berkshire

1871 Address: Shrivenham Road Leamington Villa, Faringdon
Cost
LIDDIARD, Henry Head M 43 1828 Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Eliza A Wife F 48 1823 Wiltshire
ENUNTON, Alice* Visitor F 14 1857 Surrey

1881 Address: Leamington Villa, Great Faringdon
LIDDIARD, Henry Head Married M 55 1826 Retired Grocer
Aldbourne, Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Eliza Ann Wife Married F 60 1821 Retired Grocer Wife
Bere Regis, Dorset
EMINTON, Alice Niece Single F 24 1857 Annuitant
Chipstead, Kent
ILES, Louisa Servant Single F 20 1861 General Servant
Purton, Wiltshire

Your Edward is described as a seedsman. Mine is a weaver. There is another Edward and Sarah in Aldbourne but he is a labourer. I think we are talkng about different Edwards. Your Henry is Henry Edward too.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 10:05

This is the Henry who married Leah Ralph.


25-Jan-1840 M Henry LIDDIARD, Bachelor, aged 19 of Aldbourne, Labourer; son of Thomas LIDDIARD, Mason and
Leah RALPH, Spinster, aged 20 of Aldbourne; dau of William RALPH, Labourer - by Banns
by John SEAGRAM, Vicar; Witnesses: James LAWRENCE, John ORCHARD 28

Marriages Mar 1840
LIDDIARD Henry Hungerford 6 257
RALPH Leah Hungerford 6 257


1841 census - household transcription
Person: LIDDIARD, Henry
Address: Butts, Aldbourne
LIDDIARD, Henry M 20 1821 Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Leah F 20 1821 Wiltshire

So not yours if father is Edward.
His father Thomas was the son of Edward with Sarah Giles.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 09:46

However reading their are several Edwards in the area and I am not sure if you have the right one.

This is the baptism of Henry on my tree. His father is a weaver.

20-Aug-1826 C Henry LIDDIARD, son of Edward and Mary LIDDIARD of Aldbourne, Weaver 605

Could you confirm the Henry we are following as I am not sure it is the same one.
Was it Henry and Phylis?

EDIT I have tracked Henry and Phylis before. I cannot remember where or when.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 08:27

Aldbourne is close to the Berkshire borders and people move freely form one to the other.

Best place to look for Aldbourne families is

http://www.treelines.co.uk/TUKnew/index.asp.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Mar 2013 08:17

Edward Liddiard first married Sarah Giles who was the sister of my ggggg grandfather..

from the register she was borm
26-Jun-1774 C Sarah GILES, daughter of John and Sarah GILES

she married
5-Dec-1796 M Edward LIDDIARD of this parish and
Sarah GILES of this parish - by Banns
by William MITCHELL, Curate; Witnesses: William BUNCE, Mary LIDDIARD 22

and was buried
3-Dec-1802 B Sarah LIDDIARD, wife of Edward Liddiard

Edward remarried
3-Aug-1807 M Edward LIDDIARD, widower of this parish and
Mary BULLOCK, spinster of the same place - by Banns
by William MITCHELL, Minister; Witnesses: Thomas LIDDIARD [X], Daniel LIDDIARD


1841 Address: Butts, Aldbourne
LIDDIARD, Edward M 60 1781 Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Mary F 55 1786 Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, James M 20 1821 Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Sarah F 15 1826 Wiltshire

1851 census - household transcription
Person: LIDDIARD, Edward
Address: Butts Street, Ham
BULLOCK, William Son Unmarried M 40 1811 Ag Lab
Aldbourne
Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, George Son Unmarried M 34 1817 Ag Lab
Aldbourne
Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Mary Wife Married F 68 1783 Ag Lab
Ramsbury
Wiltshire
LIDDIARD, Edward Head Married M 74 1777 Ag Lab
Aldbourne
Wiltshire

1861 Address: Claypond, Aldbourne
LIDDARD, Edward Head Married M 84 1777 Parish Lab
Aldbourne, Wiltshire
LIDDARD, Mary Wife Married F 78 1783 Agricultural Labourer
Ramsbury, Wiltshire

I have found 11 children between them.

To contact me click on my name and send me a message. I have lots of informaton about this family.

LK

Flip

Flip Report 23 Mar 2013 15:42

Yes, I received your message, but it's best to keep to the thread so others may be able to help - we all have different subscriptions and knowledge of different records - so something I miss may be picked up by others.

You think Henry's mother may have been Mary Ann or Marianne - but I'm not finding anything on this in the records on familysearch or ancestry.

There's no date for the marriage to Harriet, it was from freebmd which just records the quarter/year, and doesn't give their maritial status or ages at time of marriage. The only way to verify if it is correct is to order the marriage certificate from GRO

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 23 Mar 2013 15:40

The Harriet Jessett and Edward Liddiard marriage is in the June quarter of 1849 (so sometime in April, May or June).

Kath. x

Colin

Colin Report 23 Mar 2013 15:31

Hi Flip, Have received recent message sent to you?
Regarding the wedding to Jessett Harriet,is there date for it?

Colin

Flip

Flip Report 23 Mar 2013 15:09

If on the right track, think this is his re-marriage although rather a lot of entries for 1 marriage!

Marriages Jun 1849 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bartholomew William Hungerford 6 322
Claridge Lydia Hungerford 6 322
Collar Jane Hungerford 6 322
Haywood Thomas Hungerford 6 322
Jesset Harriet Hungerford 6 322
Jessett Harriet Hungerford 6 322
Jessett Harriet Hungerford 6 322
Liddiard Edward Hungerford 6 322
Liddiard Edward Hungerford 6 322
Pearce Elizabeth Hungerford 6 322
Webb Arthur Barnes Hungerford 6 322

Flip

Flip Report 23 Mar 2013 14:56

If 1841 is correct, then Ann (or Mary Ann) has died by 1851 and Edward is with Harriett as posted earlier. If you notice, one child on that census is Albert and Harriett is with him after Edward's death as his step-mother:

Harriet Liddiard
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Step Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Burbage, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Hungerford
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address: London Road Nursery
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: No Occupation

Registration district: Hungerford
Sub-registration district: Hungerford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1275
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Liddiard 38
Emma Liddiard 37
Frances Emma Liddiard 14
Francis Edward Liddiard 12
Katherine Annie Liddiard 6
Harriet Liddiard 76 <<<<<<<<<
Frederick Barrett 5

Flip

Flip Report 23 Mar 2013 14:45

Hi Colin, welcome back to your thread, thought you'd got lost ;-)

So, is the marriage & christening for Henry the right one? What about the 1841 census - do you think that is possibly the right Edward?

Colin

Colin Report 23 Mar 2013 14:02

Thank you all for responses.
Potty - Has confirmed the Henry & Phillis Liddiard branch upto and including my Grandfather Ralph.
Maddie -Unfortunately a different part of the tree.
KathleenBell & Pam, Some very intesting infomation,I need to it check out!
Mel Fairy Godmother - On Edward looks as if it could correct.
Flip - You are correct, can I help you in anyway? Interesting about lost at sea!
When information is check out, It imay be now possible to go further in my search.
Thank again, Colin