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Susan

Susan Report 22 Mar 2013 14:19

Hi. Helping my mum search for her Grandfather. He was John Scott Morrison born in 1878(we think). He married Ann Briggs in1898, Northumberland. We are unable to trace his parents. Father is William Morrison but noted as deceased on marriage certificate. Mother not mentioned.
Mum was told he was brought up by his Gran...no name that we know of but I have found a John Morrison on 1881 census and head of household is older lady.
I am hoping that someone can help us
Thanks :-)

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Mar 2013 14:25

?? Is this your chap -

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: MORRISON, John Scott
Registration district: Berwick
County: Northumberland
Year of registration: 1878
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 10B
Page no: 378

and in the 1881 census that you found?

1881 census transcription details for: ?, Kyloe

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 5128
Folio: 5
Page: 1
Reg. District: Berwick
Sub District: Islandshire
Parish: Kyloe
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: ?, Kyloe
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MORRISON, Margaret Head Married F 53 1828 Formerly Charwoman Tweedmouth, Northumberland
MORRISON, Ellen Daughter Single F 17 1864 Ag Lab Spittal, Northumberland
MORRISON, Alexander Nephew Single M 14 1867 Ag Lab Spittal, Northumberland
MORRISON, Mary A Daughter Single F 14 1867 Ag Lab Spittal, Northumberland
MORRISON, George Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Spittal, Northumberland
MORRISON, John Grand Son Single M 3 1878 Kyloe, Northumberland

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Mar 2013 15:04

Welcome to the boards Susan.

Is it just me that is struggling to find the above family in the 1871 census?

Off to take another look...........

Edit: Mothers names are not on marriage cert's.........only the Father.

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Mar 2013 15:17

No, not the only one PH! Nor before or after either

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Mar 2013 15:21

I have John in the 1891 census with his married aunt.........(Not that it helps!)

1891 England Census
about John Morrison
Name: John Morrison
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Kyloe, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Embleton
Ecclesiastical parish: Embleton
Town: Embleton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub-registration district: Embleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4265
Folio: 121
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
John Davison 31
Ellen Davison 29
Ellen Davison 3
Edward Davison 2
George Davison 1/12
John Morrison 14


Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
Davison John Belford 10b 529
MORRISON Ellen Belford 10b 529

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Mar 2013 15:27

This doesn't help either.........

1891 England Census
about Margaret Morrison
Name: Margaret Morrison
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Berwick, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Burton
Ecclesiastical parish: Bamburgh
Town: Burton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Belford
Sub-registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4266
Folio: 118
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Morrison 59
George Morrison 21
Mary Ann Morrison 24
Joseph Morrison 7 (Grandson)


1901 England Census
about Margaret Morrison
Name: Margaret Morrison
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Tweedmouth, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Sturton Grange
Ecclesiastical parish: Warkworth
Town: Sturton Grange
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub-registration district: Warkworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Piece: 4838
Folio: 50
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Morrison 69
Joseph Morrison 17 (Grandson)




greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Mar 2013 15:30

Closest I'm getting - ages out in some cases.
Margaret born Tweedmouth, children Spittal. Alexander described as son here not nephew

1871 census transcription details for: Front Street, Tweedmouth, Berwick

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 5185
Folio: 30
Page: 2
Reg. District: Berwick
Sub District: Berwick
Parish: Tweedmouth
Enum. District: 19
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Berwick
Address: Front Street, Tweedmouth, Berwick
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
MORRISON, Margaret Head F 37 1834 Northumberland
MORRISON, Joseph Son M 17 1854 Northumberland
MORRISON, Margaret Daughter F 13 1858 Northumberland
MORRISON, Eleanor Daughter F 10 1861 Northumberland
MORRISON, Mary Ann Daughter F 3 1868 Northumberland
MORRISON, Alexander Son M 4 1867 Northumberland
MORRISON, George Son M 17 1854 Northumberland
DAVIDSON, Andrew Lodger M 84 1787 Northumberland

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Mar 2013 15:35

That looks good to me Stuart.

The 1891 census states Margaret was born in Berwick too!!

Looking at the image of the 1871 census.........George is actually age 1

It possibly states that Margaret is "Unmarried" too?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Mar 2013 15:37

No sign of a son William though........

1861 England Census
about Margaret Morrison
Name: Margaret Morrison
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Tweedmouth, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Spittal
Town: Spittal
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Berwick
Sub-registration district: Berwick upon Tweed
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Piece: 3888
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Davidson 74 >>>>Appears on the 1871 census
Ann Watson 66 (Lodger)
Margaret Morrison 26 (Unmarried) Charwoman
Joseph Morrison 8
Mary A Morrison 6
Margaret Morrison 4


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Mar 2013 15:55

Have to pop off for a while........will check back later.

It might be that John had no idea who his Father was and the name William was added just to "Save Face"......i think you will need to purchase a copy of his birth certificate Susan to find out who his parents were.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about John Scott Morrison
Name: John Scott Morrison
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1878
Registration district: Berwick
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 378

The best place to purchase Certificates is online here........

www.gro.gov.uk/

Will cost you £9.25

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Mar 2013 16:20

Have come to the same conclusions PH

1851 census transcription details for: Eastern Lane, Berwick, Berwick Upon Tweed

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2421
Folio: 463
Page: 48
Reg. District: Berwick
Sub District: Berwick upon Tweed
Parish: Berwick
Enum. District: 2G
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Berwick upon Tweed
Address: Eastern Lane, Berwick, Berwick Upon Tweed
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
OSWALD, Robert Head Widower M 62 1789 Corn Merchant Berwick upon Tweed
OSWALD, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829 Berwick upon Tweed
OSWALD, Robina Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Berwick upon Tweed
MORISON, Margaret Servant Unmarried F 17 1834 House Servant Tweedmouth, Northumberland

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Mar 2013 16:29

1841 England Census
about Margaret Morrison
Name: Margaret Morrison
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Tweedmouth
Hundred: Islandshire
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Berwick upon Tweed
Sub-registration district: Islandshire
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 318
Book: 9
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Morrison 20
Margaret Morrison 7


Susan

Susan Report 23 Mar 2013 21:06

Thank you all for your help. I had found the 1881 census which I thought was correct but struggling to piece together.
He always said that his Father was called William and was a coachman. Which is the same as George Morrison.
I will try and find his birth certificate online.
Thanks again all. The help is much appreciated as we have very little information about John before he married Ann Briggs.

Susan

Susan Report 20 Jun 2016 13:42

Hi sorry I didn't respond to all your kind researching. Can't believe it's been over 3 years. My mum took I'll at that point and she seemed to lose interest in her research at that time.
Unfortunately she passed away this year and I am now trying to trace family by myself. I still am having no luck finding a birth certificate for John or anything much on his father William
Regards to all :-)

safc

safc Report 20 Jun 2016 14:49


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Blueberry Farm, Cockle Park, Morpeth, Northumberland, England

Learn more
Print transcription View image
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Morrison Head Married Male 24 1877 Hind Northumberland, England
Transcription
Annie Morrison Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Northumberland, England
Transcription
William Morrison Son - Male 2 1899 - Acklington, Northumberland, England
Transcription
Margaret E Morrison Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Hebron, Northumberland, England

Dea

Dea Report 20 Jun 2016 16:09

You really need that birth cert. Susan.

It could be that his mother was not married and he made up a name for his father, or, It could be that his mother was the 'Morrison' and maybe, in view of his middle name, his father could have been a William 'Scott' ???

The birth cert would at least give you his mother's details and an address where he was born.

Dea x

safc

safc Report 20 Jun 2016 16:42

under search then search trees

there are 2 members who have john morrison born kyloe about 1878 in their trees

you could contact them to see if they have any info

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jun 2016 16:45

Susan -
you say " I still am having no luck finding a birth certificate for John ."

PricklyHolly posted the details for you on 23rd March 2013 @ 15:55.
All you have to do is send for a copy of the cert at a cost of £9.25.