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Looking for info on a Elizabeth Johnson 1836 ? From Lincolnshire and Elizabeth Ferguson 1803? Yorkshire ? . I know there is a lot of question marks but I am never sure about the info I find .any help would be most helpful .

Brenda

Are these 2 people related ?

Do you have more precise location in Lincolnshire and Yorkshire ?

For info
Births
Cannot find one in 1836 but

Surname Forename Year District County Transcription
Johnson Elizabeth 1837 Louth Lincolnshire View
Johnson Elizabeth 1837 Gainsborough Lincolnshire View
Johnson Elizabeth Topham 1837 Gainsborough Lincolnshire View
Johnson Jane Elizabeth 1837 Bourne Lincolnshire View
Johnson Martha Elizabeth 1837 Louth Lincolnshire

Please tell us how you worked back to these two - seemingly unconnected - women

The names are too common for anyone to help without some proven facts..........

Have you given us their birth names?

1836 is pre-GRO, therefore the birth would not be registered

In any case, many births went unrecorded in the early years of the GRO, as, until 1875, there were no penalties for failure to register births

An idea of the problem if you don't give us more info

1841

JOHNSON, Betty 1837 4 F Gainsbro Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Household JOHNSON, Elizabeth 1837 4 F Peterborough Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Household JOHNSON, Elizabeth 1835 6 F Holbeach Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Institution JOHNSON, Elizabeth 1836 5 F Boston Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Household JOHNSON, Elizabeth 1835 6 F Newark Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Household JOHNSON, Elizabeth 1837 4 F Sleaford Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Household JOHNSON, Elizabeth 1837 4 F Newark Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Household JOHNSON, Elizabeth 1836 5 F Caistor Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Household JOHNSON, Elizabeth 1835 6 F Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Household JOHNSON, Elizabeth 1835 6 F Lincoln Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Household JOHNSON, Elizh 1835 6 F Bourn Lincolnshire VIEW VIEW
Household JOHNSON, Elizh 1836 5 F Thorne Lincolnshire VIEW

Reggie
If I am right Elizabeth is borderline for registation. Depends where the date comes from If a census plus or minus 2 years Need more info

I have worked back I have Elizabeth Johnson married to Henry cowen (but not really sure ) they have a child Henry who married Elizabeth Ferguson in Northallerton in 1874 .

Have you the marriage certificates

No! But I do know that Henry Cowen and Elizabeth Fergusson are the parents of Mary Marira Cowen b1885 , but I'm not doing well on finding their parents, I have Henry Cowen - Elizabeth Ferguson also Thomas Ferguson - Elizabeth Gillender :-(

If '1836' is taken from a census, the birth would have been 1835/6

1891 (reference)
COWEN, Henry Head Married M 42 1849 Iron Stone Miner
Amotherby, Yorkshire
COWEN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 37 1854
Bidfield, County Durham
COWEN, Margaret Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Snydale, Yorkshire
COWEN, Ann Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Guisbrough, Yorkshire
COWEN, Mary Marie Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Skiningrove, Yorkshire
Piece: 3998
Folio: 107
Page: 17
Registration District: Guisborough
Civil Parish: Skiningrove
Municipal Borough:
Address: 38, Skiningrove, Skiningrove, Kilton
County: Yorkshire (North Riding)

1881
COWEN, Henry Head Married M 33 1848 Iron Miner
Osmotherly, Yorkshire
COWEN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 28 1853
Sedgefield, Durham
COWEN, Charlotte Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Saltburn, Yorkshire
COWEN, Margaret Daughter Single F 2 1879
Lingdale, Yorkshire
Piece: 4844
Folio: 78
Page: 21
Registration District: Guisbrough
Civil Parish: Guisbrough
Municipal Borough:
Address: 40, Walkers Row, Guisbrough
County: Yorkshire (North riding)

Chris :)

Let's have some facts.................

1891 census


Person: COWEN, Mary Marie Address: 38, Skiningrove, Skiningrove, Kilton

COWEN, Henry Head Married M 42 1849 Iron Stone Miner
Amotherby, Yorkshire VIEW
COWEN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 37 1854
Bidfield, County Durham VIEW
COWEN, Margaret Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Snydale, Yorkshire VIEW
COWEN, Ann Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Guisbrough, Yorkshire VIEW
COWEN, Mary Marie Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Skiningrove, Yorkshire VIEW
Piece: 3998
Folio: 107
Page: 17
Registration District: Guisborough
Civil Parish: Skiningrove

Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
Cowen Henry Northallerton 9d 779
FERGUSSON Elizabeth Northallerton 9d 779

1881 census

Person: COWEN, Henry Address: 40, Walkers Row, Guisbrough

COWEN, Henry Head Married M 33 1848 Iron Miner
Osmotherly, Yorkshire VIEW
COWEN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 28 1853
Sedgefield, Durham VIEW
COWEN, Charlotte Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Saltburn, Yorkshire VIEW
COWEN, Margaret Daughter Single F 2 1879
Lingdale, Yorkshire

Chris

That census you added later.......can't be 1871

I've already posted it as 1881

EDIT

I see you've edited!

(realised error afterwards, and amended Reggie, lol)

Looks like the 1874 Marriage Cert. is needed...

Chris :)

The age is not quite in line with 1881/1891............but it's the only one with the same recorded birthplace

1861 census

Person: FERGUSON, Elizabeth Address: Sedgefield, Sedgefield

FERGUSON, John Head Married M 36 1825 Agricultural Labourer
..., Durham VIEW
FERGUSON, Margaret Wife Married F 31 1830 Dressmaker
Sedgefield, Durham VIEW
FERGUSON, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1851
Sedgefield, Durham VIEW
FERGUSON, Hannah Daughter F 8 1853
Sedgefield, Durham VIEW
FERGUSON, Mary Daughter F 3 1858
Sedgefield, Durham VIEW
FERGUSON, Margaret Daughter F 1 1860
Sedgefield, Durham VIEW

I agree 100%........the cert is a must!

I have no idea where 1803 came from in connection with this................

Brenda

Have you actually looked at freebmd to back up your statement that Henry Cowen married Elizabeth Johnson?

And where did you find the marriage of Thomas Ferguson to Gillender? WHEN did it take place?