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15 Mar 2013 08:11 |
According to a tree on Ancestry the Jane above married Michael Amos and this is them in 1881 - Sorry Choccy - Missed your post
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Name: Jane Amer Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Michael Amer Gender: Female Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Caldewgate County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street Address: New Broadguards Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5160 Folio: 57 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Michael Amer 40 Jane Amer 29 Sarah A. Amer 7 Susannah Amer 5 Mary Amer 3 Jane Amer
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15 Mar 2013 08:03 |
think FreeBMD mis-transcribed
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RG number: RG10 Piece: 5219 Folio: 8 Page: 14 Reg. District: Carlisle Sub District: St Cuthbert Parish: Botchergate Enum. District: 11 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Carlisle Address: John Street, South Waugh's Court, Botchergate, Carlisle County: Cumberland
RODDEN, Joseph Head M 50 1821 Cumberland RODDEN, Ann Wife F 44 1827 Ireland RODDEN, Joseph Son M 16 1855 Ireland RODDEN, Ann Daughter F 14 1857 Lancashire >>>>AMER, Jane Daughter F Kent AMER, Charles Son M 1 1870 Cumberland
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RG number: RG11 Piece: 5160 Folio: 57 Page: 10 Reg. District: Carlisle Sub District: St Cuthbert Parish: Caldewgate Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: New Broadguards, Caldewgate County: Cumberland
AMER, Michael Head Married M 40 1841 Bricklayer Devizes, Wiltshire AMER, Jane Wife Married F 29 1852 Carlisle, Cumberland AMER, Sarah A Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Carlisle, Cumberland AMER, Susannah Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Carlisle, Cumberland AMER, Mary Daughter Single F 3 1878 Carlisle, Cumberland AMER, Jane Daughter Single F 0 1881 Carlisle, Cumberland
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15 Mar 2013 08:01 |
Not seeing either couple in 1871 other than the possible Andrew listed before with his parents. There is this Jane Rudden who might be a candidate for one of the couples.
1861?
Name: Jane Rudden Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Rudden Mother's name: Anne Rudden Gender: Female Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England Civil parish: Caldewgate Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Carlisle County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 110 Piece: 3920 Folio: 104 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Rudden 38 Anne Rudden 38 Jane Rudden 10 Joseph Rudden 6 Anne Rudden 3
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15 Mar 2013 05:49 |
The marriage I found in Carlisle in 1869 Andrew Lorimer Jane Rudden Margaret Johnston Michael Amos
Can anyone find either of these women in 187
Thomas Shield married Jane Tomlinson in Sunderland in 1868 so Jane is a Tomlinson
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14 Mar 2013 22:14 |
Got to go out now
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14 Mar 2013 22:12 |
Silly me hahaha Why would Andrew Lorimer in 1871 say hes married if he isnt and his wife isnt there
Still odd one of Janes children is Jessie Tomlinson Lorimer On the 1901 census Jane says she is born in Carlisle
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14 Mar 2013 22:06 |
but what's he doing on the 1871 census?
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14 Mar 2013 21:58 |
What do you think of this I found a marriage in 1868 in Sunderland Thomas Shield to Jane Tomlinson Found a death in Sunderland for Thomas Lowrie Shield in June qt 1869 age 28
One of Janes children is called Jessie Tomlinson Lorimer
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14 Mar 2013 21:39 |
Can't find a death for Thomas Shield, or for Sarah Lorimer for that matter.
Perhaps Andrew Lorimer and Jane Shield just started living together?
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14 Mar 2013 21:34 |
Thank you all This doesnt make sense. If Andrew is married by 1871 and Albert E Shield is living with Thomas and Jane Shield in 1871 How can Albert be his step son and who is Andrew married to
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14 Mar 2013 21:22 |
1871 for Andrew Lorimer
1871 England Census
Name: Andrew Lorimer Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Lorimer Mother's name: Jessie Lorimer Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Carlisle County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 69 Piece: 5222 Folio: 106 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age James Lorimer 51 Jessie Lorimer 49 Andrew Lorimer 25 Sarah Lorimer 22 Matthew Lorimer 14 Cat Isabella Lorimer 11 Jessie Lorimer 7 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5222; Folio: 106; Page: 16; GSU roll: 847440.
(Ancestry version)
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RG number: RG10 Piece: 5222 Folio: 106 Page: 16 Reg. District: Carlisle Sub District: St Mary Parish: St Mary Enum. District: 17 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Carlisle Address: Trinity Buildings, St Mary, Carlisle County: Cumberland
LORIMER, James Head M 51 1820 Scotland LORIMER, Jessie Wife F 49 1822 Scotland LORIMER, Andrew Son M 25 1846 Scotland LORIMER, Sarah Daughter F 22 1849 Scotland LORIMER, Matthew Son M 14 1857 Cumberland LORIMER, Cat Isabella Daughter F 11 1860 Cumberland LORIMER, Jessie Daughter F 7 1864 Cumberland
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14 Mar 2013 21:21 |
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Name: Andrew Lorimer Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Lorimer Mother's name: Jessie Lorimer Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Carlisle County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 69 Piece: 5222 Folio: 106 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age James Lorimer 51 Jessie Lorimer 49 Andrew Lorimer 25 Sarah Lorimer 22 Matthew Lorimer 14 Cat Isabella Lorimer 11 Jessie Lorimer 7 Occupation of joiner and married
Class: RG10; Piece: 5222; Folio: 106; Page: 16; GSU roll: 847440.
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14 Mar 2013 21:00 |
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RG number: RG10 Piece: 5002 Folio: 26 Page: 45 Reg. District: Sunderland Sub District: Bishopwearmouth, North Parish: Bishop Wearmouth Enum. District: 15 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Sunderland Address: Potts Street, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland County: Durham
SHIELD, Thomas Head M 40 1831 Cumberland (born Alston) SHIELD, Jane Wife F 33 1838 Cumberland SHIELD, Albert E Son M 1 1870 County Durham
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14 Mar 2013 20:58 |
In the 1881 census Andrew Lorimer 1847 Scotland occ joiner carpenter Jane 1840 Cumberland Albert E Shield step son 1870 Sunderland Sarah I Lorimer ( that should be a J for Jane) Sunderland Jessy T Lorimer 1876 Sunderland Catherine Lorimer 1880 Sunderland
On the 1901 census Jane is born Carlisle and she and daughter Kate( Catherine) are living with Sarah J Naden and her family I dont need Naden info thanks
I looked for a marriage for Andrew Lorimer and found one in 1869 in Carlisle to Jane Rudden I really want to see who Albert E Shield is with in 1871
Thank you
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