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Have just received my 3xGreat-Grandfather's marriage certificate (2nd marriage). First marriage took place before records began, in Yorkshire.

3xGreat-Grandfather is

John HOLMES born c1812 Brimington, Derbyshire.

2nd Wife in 1881 for information.

Name: Frances Holmes
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Bawtry, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Brimington
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: Holmes House
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Annuitant
Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3435
Folio: 58
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances Holmes 66
Annie Holmes 40
Jas. Wilson 46
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Now I'm trying to find John's parents and siblings. He gives his father's name on marriage certificate as: William HOLMES - Occupation: Farmer.

Any help locating William would be much appreciated.

Hello, Joy -

For our ref, here they are in 1871:


1871 England Census about John Holmes
Name: John Holmes
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Frances Holmes
Gender: Male
Where born: Brimington, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Brimington
Ecclesiastical parish: Church
Town: Brimington
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Household schedule number: 52
Piece: 3613
Folio: 97
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
John Holmes 59(Farmer)
Frances Holmes 56
John H Holmes 24 (Farmer's son)
Frederick W Holmes 8 (Scholar)
Adelaide Hall 16 (Servant)
William Turner 17 (Servant)

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1861 England Census about John Holmes
Name: John Holmes
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Brimington, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Brimington
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Piece: 2531
Folio: 62
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
John Holmes 49 (Farmer)
John H Holmes 14
Fanny Womack 45 (Servant)
George Watson 23 (Wagonner)

Have you checked the IGI?

None of the census records for John is likely to be of any help, unfortunately

This looks to be a possibility...he is a Farmer

1841 census


Person: HOLMES, William Address: Leading To Common, Chesterfield, Brimington

HOLMES, William M 55 1786 Derbyshire VIEW
HOLMES, Mary F 55 1786 VIEW
HOLMES, Charles M 20 1821 Derbyshire VIEW
HOLMES, Henry M 15 1826 Derbyshire VIEW
HOLMES, Francis F 10 1831 Derbyshire VIEW
HALL, John M 20 1821 VIEW
TURNER, Samuel M 15 1826 Derbyshire VIEW Piece: 194 Book/Folio: 4/21 Page: 5 Registration District: Chesterfield Civil Parish: Chesterfield Municipal Borough:

Have you thought of posting a request on Derek's thread?

He's a whizz with Derbyshire records

You can't make accurate progress until you know John's mother's name

That looks like a good possibility, Reggie. Thank you.

Yes, I have asked Derek, unfortunately his Brimington records begin in 1813 and John isn't there.

A speculative long shot - here's a William Holmes, farmer, of a suitable age, in Brimington:


1851 England Census about William Holmes
Name: William Holmes
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catharine Holmes
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Brimington, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Brimington
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Ashover
ED, institution, or vessel: 11b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 2147
Folio: 776
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
William Holmes 69
Catharine Holmes 57
Eliza Heath 15
William Twigg 50
William Twigg 50

Again speculatively - perhaps a sibling of John??


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Eliza Holmes
Name: Eliza Holmes
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 20 Jun 1813
Christening Place: Brimington, Derbyshire, England
Father's Name: William Holmes
Mother's name: Mary

And another?


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Jane Holmes
Name: Jane Holmes
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 4 Dec 1814
Christening Place: Brimington, Derbyshire, England
Father's Name: William Holmes
Mother's name: Mary

Thanks for everything so far, have to pop out for a while. Will check back later.

More possibilities for siblings:


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Charles Monkton Holmes
Name: Charles Monkton Holmes
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 6 Oct 1816
Christening Place: Brimington, Derbyshire, England
Father's Name: William Holmes
Mother's name: Mary


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about William Bartholomew Holmes
Name: William Bartholomew Holmes
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Oct 1820
Christening Place: Brimington, Derbyshire, England
Father's Name: William Holmes
Mother's name: Mary


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Frances Holmes
Name: Frances Holmes
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 12 Mar 1826
Christening Place: Brimington, Derbyshire, England
Father's Name: William Holmes
Mother's name: Mary