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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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12 Mar 2013 10:02 |
Have just received my 3xGreat-Grandfather's marriage certificate (2nd marriage). First marriage took place before records began, in Yorkshire.
3xGreat-Grandfather is
John HOLMES born c1812 Brimington, Derbyshire.
2nd Wife in 1881 for information.
Name: Frances Holmes Age: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Bawtry, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Brimington County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address: Holmes House Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Education:
Employment status:
Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: Annuitant Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Chesterfield ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3435 Folio: 58 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Frances Holmes 66 Annie Holmes 40 Jas. Wilson 46 See more with the new image viewer Try it now Learn more with our new image viewer
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Now I'm trying to find John's parents and siblings. He gives his father's name on marriage certificate as: William HOLMES - Occupation: Farmer.
Any help locating William would be much appreciated.
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ArgyllGran
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12 Mar 2013 10:10 |
Hello, Joy -
For our ref, here they are in 1871:
1871 England Census about John Holmes Name: John Holmes Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Frances Holmes Gender: Male Where born: Brimington, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Brimington Ecclesiastical parish: Church Town: Brimington County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Chesterfield ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Household schedule number: 52 Piece: 3613 Folio: 97 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age John Holmes 59(Farmer) Frances Holmes 56 John H Holmes 24 (Farmer's son) Frederick W Holmes 8 (Scholar) Adelaide Hall 16 (Servant) William Turner 17 (Servant)
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ArgyllGran
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12 Mar 2013 10:12 |
1861:
The 1861 Census is provided in association with:
1861 England Census about John Holmes Name: John Holmes Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Brimington, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Brimington County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Chesterfield ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 203 Piece: 2531 Folio: 62 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age John Holmes 49 (Farmer) John H Holmes 14 Fanny Womack 45 (Servant) George Watson 23 (Wagonner)
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ErikaH
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12 Mar 2013 10:13 |
Have you checked the IGI?
None of the census records for John is likely to be of any help, unfortunately
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ErikaH
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12 Mar 2013 10:19 |
This looks to be a possibility...he is a Farmer
1841 census
Person: HOLMES, William Address: Leading To Common, Chesterfield, Brimington HOLMES, William M 55 1786 Derbyshire VIEW HOLMES, Mary F 55 1786 VIEW HOLMES, Charles M 20 1821 Derbyshire VIEW HOLMES, Henry M 15 1826 Derbyshire VIEW HOLMES, Francis F 10 1831 Derbyshire VIEW HALL, John M 20 1821 VIEW TURNER, Samuel M 15 1826 Derbyshire VIEW Piece: 194 Book/Folio: 4/21 Page: 5 Registration District: Chesterfield Civil Parish: Chesterfield Municipal Borough:
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ErikaH
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12 Mar 2013 10:23 |
Have you thought of posting a request on Derek's thread?
He's a whizz with Derbyshire records
You can't make accurate progress until you know John's mother's name
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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12 Mar 2013 10:27 |
That looks like a good possibility, Reggie. Thank you.
Yes, I have asked Derek, unfortunately his Brimington records begin in 1813 and John isn't there.
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ArgyllGran
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12 Mar 2013 10:48 |
A speculative long shot - here's a William Holmes, farmer, of a suitable age, in Brimington:
1851 England Census about William Holmes Name: William Holmes Age: 69 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catharine Holmes Gender: M (Male) Where born: Brimington, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Brimington County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Ashover ED, institution, or vessel: 11b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 56 Piece: 2147 Folio: 776 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age William Holmes 69 Catharine Holmes 57 Eliza Heath 15 William Twigg 50 William Twigg 50
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ArgyllGran
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12 Mar 2013 10:58 |
Again speculatively - perhaps a sibling of John??
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Eliza Holmes Name: Eliza Holmes Gender: Female Christening Date: 20 Jun 1813 Christening Place: Brimington, Derbyshire, England Father's Name: William Holmes Mother's name: Mary
And another?
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Jane Holmes Name: Jane Holmes Gender: Female Christening Date: 4 Dec 1814 Christening Place: Brimington, Derbyshire, England Father's Name: William Holmes Mother's name: Mary
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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12 Mar 2013 11:00 |
Thanks for everything so far, have to pop out for a while. Will check back later.
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ArgyllGran
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12 Mar 2013 11:01 |
More possibilities for siblings:
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Charles Monkton Holmes Name: Charles Monkton Holmes Gender: Male Christening Date: 6 Oct 1816 Christening Place: Brimington, Derbyshire, England Father's Name: William Holmes Mother's name: Mary
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about William Bartholomew Holmes Name: William Bartholomew Holmes Gender: Male Christening Date: 22 Oct 1820 Christening Place: Brimington, Derbyshire, England Father's Name: William Holmes Mother's name: Mary
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Frances Holmes Name: Frances Holmes Gender: Female Christening Date: 12 Mar 1826 Christening Place: Brimington, Derbyshire, England Father's Name: William Holmes Mother's name: Mary
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