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MarieCeleste
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16 Mar 2013 18:55 |
That's great that you've got a contact Innes - do let us know the outcome.
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16 Mar 2013 18:01 |
Hi again. Someone has contacted me by phone,who knows about Kate Barter and what happened to her and we are going to meet up. Thank you all for trying to help me. I did know about Bessie but unfortunately she died aged 2yrs.and Harry died aged 12yrs. Thank you all once again,Innes
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16 Mar 2013 09:18 |
You originally posted you didn't know your grandfather had a sister, but it would appear he had 2 sisters:
Kate Barter Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Walter Barter Mother's name: Elizabeth Barter Gender: Female Where born: Holwell, Dorset, England Civil parish: Holwell Ecclesiastical parish: Holwell Town: Holywell County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Sherborne Sub-registration district: Yetminster ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 48 Piece: 2006 Folio: 68 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Walter Barter 43 (carter on farm) Elizabeth Barter 43 Arthur Barter 15 Kate Barter 13 Bertie Barter 11 Tom Barter 9 Harry Barter 6 Bessie Barter 1 All of them born Holwell
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ErikaH
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13 Mar 2013 10:03 |
If she isn't in a GR tree, no-one else is researching her
If she lived past 1969, you can search for possible deaths on Ancestry using her DOB, then cross-refer with marriages, or not, as the case may be. She may not have married
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Innes
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13 Mar 2013 08:36 |
Sorry for not being on line. Kate Barter b11 May 1887 Hilfield. Parents Walter and Elizabeth Barter of Holwell. They died 1905 and 1901 respectively and the family got split up. There was 2 Kate Barter's born around the same time the other one being Milton Abbas in 1888. The marriage certificates that I have are William Gibbs-1920 Croydon William John Pearce-1916 Southhampton William Teed 1913 West Ham Frederick Allcock 1921 Hackney Sorry once again. I will not be able to watch my thread now until the weekend but thank you all for helping. Innnes
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AnnCardiff
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10 Mar 2013 16:24 |
I've asked poster to return with some feedback
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10 Mar 2013 16:01 |
Holwell Baptisms 1841-1888
DHC/DRO film MIC/R 596
20.11.1842; Thomas Edward; Thos.; Eliza; BARTER; Holwell; farmer
21/4.8.1845; Jane Ann; Benjamin; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; farmer
13.8.1848; Ann ?Lavinia; Joseph; Mary Ann; BARTER; Holwell; labourer
6.4.1849; Louis William; Benjamin; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; yeoman; pr. bapt.
13.10.1849; Emily Jane; Joseph; Mary; BARTER; Holwell; labourer; pr. bapt.; dead
16.6.1850; Louis William; Benjamin; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; yeoman; also Ap 6 1849
9.6.1851; Benjamin; Benjamin; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; farmer; pr. bapt.; twin
9.6.1851; Sarah; Benjamin; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; farmer; pr. bapt.; twin
24.3.1853; Rosetta; Benjamin; Mary; BARTER; Holwell; yeoman
4.6.1854; William; Charles; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; labourer
13.1.1855; Priscilla Elizabeth; Thos.; Eliza; BARTER; Holwell; labourer; pr. bapt.; died
3.8.1856; Emily; Charles; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; labourer
7.9.1856; Job Ryall; Benjamin; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; yeoman
31.12.1858; Priscilla; Benjamin; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; farmer; pr. bapt.
6.2.1859; Samuel; John; Eliza; BARTER; Holwell; labourer
4.2.1860; Mary; Charles; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; labourer; pr. bapt.
9.1.1861; James; Benjamin; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; farmer; pr. bapt.
18.1.1863; Anna; Charles; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; labourer
7.8.1864; Eli; John; Eliza; BARTER; Holwell; labourer
25.12.1867; Charles George; Charles; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; labourer
?25.8.1867; Alfred Edwin; Thomas; Jane; BARTER; Holwell; yeoman
2.7.1868; Eliza Jane; Henry James; Mary Jane; BARTER; Holwell; labourer; pr. bapt.
3.3.1873; Arthur Theodore; Robert; Emily; BARTER; Holwell; yeoman; pr. bapt.
10.7.1881; Bertie; Charles; Mary Jane; BARTER; Bishops Caundle; dairyman
Holwell Baptisms 1844-1888 - Dorset OPC home page 4.2.1860; Mary; Charles; Sarah; BARTER; Holwell; labourer; pr. bapt. 4.3.1860 ... 6.2.1887; Lily Kate; Walter Stephen; Christiana; FOX; Holwell; labourer www.opcdorset.org/HolwellFiles/?HolwellBaps1844_1888.htm - Cached
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AnnCardiff
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10 Mar 2013 15:52 |
MI REF SURNAME FORENAME YEAR OF DEATH AGE
74 BARTER Louisa 1928 aged 68 years 10 BARTER Charles 1897 aged 51 years 37 BARTER Alfred Edwin 1888 aged 20 years 39 BARTER Benjamin 1895 aged 80 years 39 BARTER Sarah 1899 aged 80 years 72 BARTER Sarah 1925 aged 74 years 72 BARTER Mary 1926 aged 71 years 74 BARTER Job 1942 aged 86 years 75 BARTER Rosetta 1942 aged 89 years
Holwell, St Laurence, Churchyard, Dorset, England, Monumental ... Monumental Inscriptions Holwell, St Laurence, Dorset ... Kate Prisilla: 1897: aged 18 years: 5: ANTELL: Thomas: 1884 ... BARTER: Louisa: 1928: aged 68 years: 10: BARTER: Charles: 1897 www.opcdorset.org/HolwellFiles/?MIHolwellStLaurence.htm - Cached
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10 Mar 2013 15:49 |
Rather than the speculation - which you have already tried by buying wrong certificates - could you post up your grandfather's details - eg him on a census with his parents, that way we would know the parents names. And even try to check she was actually his sister.
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MarieCeleste
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10 Mar 2013 15:45 |
The tree on ancestry has no actual birthdate (and just has Dorset for birthplace) for the Kate who married William Gibbs so it could be either one of them.
Innes - which are the marriage certificates you've bought and discounted (presumably because the age or father was wrong?)
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MarieCeleste
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10 Mar 2013 15:40 |
There were two Kate Barter's baptised in 1887:
Dorset, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Kate Barter Baptism Date: 8 Jan 1887 (actually 1888 on original) Parish: Milton Abbas Father's Name: John Barter - a carter Mother's name: Eliza Barter
Dorset, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Kate Barter Baptism Date: 3 Jul 1887 Parish: Hilfield Father's Name: Walter Barter - a labourer Mother's name: Elizabeth Barter
The latter would be the correct one based on the opening post but I've posted them both as a reminder not to mix them up on later records.
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Maddie
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10 Mar 2013 15:36 |
a tree on ancestry has a Kate Barter born 1888 marrying a William Gibbs in 1920 and dying in 1963
????????? Name: Kate Barter Spouse Surname: Gibbs Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920 Registration district: Croydon Inferred County: Surrey Volume Number: 2a Page Number: 942 Find Spouse: Find Spouse
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Kate Gibbs Name: Kate Gibbs Birth Date: abt 1888 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1963 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Croydon Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 5g Page: 86
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AnnCardiff
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10 Mar 2013 15:31 |
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Name: Bertie Barter Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Gender: Male Age: 11 Relationship to Head of Household: Son Birthplace: Holwell, Dorsetshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Sherborne Sub-District: Yetminster Ecclesiastical Parish: Holwell Civil Parish: Holwell District/Parish/County: Dorsetshire
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AnnCardiff
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10 Mar 2013 15:30 |
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Name: Arthur Barter Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Gender: Male Age: 15 Relationship to Head of Household: Son Birthplace: Holwell, Dorsetshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Sherborne Sub-District: Yetminster Ecclesiastical Parish: Holwell Civil Parish: Holwell District/Parish/County: Dorsetshire
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AnnCardiff
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10 Mar 2013 15:27 |
Name: Kate Barter Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 Gender: Female Age: 3 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birthplace: Hillfield, Dorsetshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Sherborne Sub-District: Yetminster Ecclesiastical Parish: Holwell Parish: Holwell County: Dorsetshire
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AnnCardiff
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10 Mar 2013 15:26 |
Name: Kate Barter Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Gender: Female Age: 21 Birthplace: Hifield, Dorsetshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Christchurch Sub-District: Bournemouth Parish: Bournemouth County: Hampshire
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10 Mar 2013 15:25 |
Name: Kate Barter Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Gender: Female Age: 13 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birthplace: Holwell, Dorsetshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Sherborne Sub-District: Yetminster Ecclesiastical Parish: Holwell Civil Parish: Holwell District/Parish/County: Dorsetshire
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Innes
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10 Mar 2013 15:22 |
Is anyone a decendent of Kate Barter b11 May 1887 at Hilfield,Holwell,Dorset. I didn't know my Grandfather had a sister until I started the family tree. I can find her in the 1911 census at Bournemouth as a housemaid to the Eaton sisters. No one seems to have her in their tree on Genes. Have sent for 4 marriage certificates to no avail. There is a death in New Forest Sept 1946 but the age is 6yrs.out I would love to know what happened to her. Fingers crossed,Innes
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