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9 Mar 2013 13:18 |
Hi Could some kind person please look on Find my Past for the Lincolnshire Settlement Examinations 1721-1865 Transcripts for Joseph Major and Sarah Major (mother & son) 1842 at Kirton in Lindsey Lincolnshire.
Thank you in advance for any help you can give.
Wendy
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9 Mar 2013 13:22 |
This is it, I'm afraid.
Lincolnshire Settlement Examinations 1721-1865 Print Close Year: 1842 Forenames: Joseph Surname: Major Occupation: son of Sarah Age: Source place: Kirton Lindsey Source description: County: Lincolnshire Country: England Born place: Born county: Checked: Y Record source: Lincolnshire Settlement Examinations Data provider: Lincolnshire Family History Society
Lincolnshire Settlement Examinations 1721-1865 Print Close Year: 1842 Forenames: Sarah Surname: Major Occupation: wife of John Age: 52 Source place: Kirton Lindsey Source description: County: Lincolnshire Country: England Born place: Calverton Born county: Nottinghamshire Checked: Y Record source: Lincolnshire Settlement Examinations Data provider: Lincolnshire Family History Society
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9 Mar 2013 13:27 |
Hi ***alviegal***,
Thank you so much, they didn't stay there long was back in Bulwell by 1851 husband John stayed in Kirton he had another family may have been a bigamist.
Wendy :-D
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9 Mar 2013 13:32 |
Hi Wendy, was just looking for them. They appear to be back in Bulwell in 1841.
1841 census transcription details for: Royal Forest Street, Bulwell Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 856 Book/Folio: 8/6 Page: 5 Reg. District: Basford Sub District: Bulwell Parish: Bulwell Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Royal Forest Street, Bulwell County: Nottinghamshire Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born COCKING, James M 40 1801 Nottinghamshire MAJOR, Sarah F 50 1791 Nottinghamshire MAJOR, Joseph M 22 1819 Nottinghamshire MAJOR, Thomas M 15 1826 Nottinghamshire MAJOR, Elizabeth F 15 1826 Nottinghamshire MAJOR, Sarah F 15 1826 Nottinghamshire MAJOR, Mary F 13 1828 Nottinghamshire MAJOR, William M 11 1830 Nottinghamshire MAJOR, Ann F 9 1832 Nottinghamshire
1851 census transcription details for: Buildings, Bulwell Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 2127 Folio: 476 Page: 15 Reg. District: Basford Sub District: Bulwell Parish: Bulwell Enum. District: 4A Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Buildings, Bulwell County: Nottinghamshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born COCKIN, James Head Married M 51 1800 F W K (Gloves) Bulwell, Nottinghamshire MAJOR, Sarah Lodger Widow F 61 1790 M Calverton, Nottinghamshire MAJOR, William Son Unmarried M 20 1831 F W K (Gloves) Bulwell, Nottinghamshire MAJOR, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Spinster Bulwell, Nottinghamshire MAJOR, Mary Grand Daughter F 6 1845 Bulwell, Nottinghamshire MAJOR, William Son M 0 (11 MOS) 1851 Bulwell, Nottinghamshire
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9 Mar 2013 13:40 |
Hi ***alviegal***,
Yes that's them, i've been going though the marriages of the children and none of them that I've done so far has put John Major down as father and apart from a possible burial for him in 1862 in Kirton and his marriage to Sarah in Radford 1815 I cannot find anything else on him.
Wendy
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9 Mar 2013 13:48 |
First name(s): John Last name MAJOR Date of burial: 3 Jun 1862 Age at death: 77 Calculated year of birth: 1785 Place of burial: Kirton in Lindsey Dedication: St Andrew County: Lincolnshire Notes: Kirton in Lindsey St Andrew Denomination: Anglican Coverage: 1813 - 1900 Number of entries 3,087 Record source: National Burial Index Data provider: Lincolnshire Family History Society
Yes, I'm also having a problem finding him. :-S :-S
From freereg.
County Lincolnshire Place Kirton in Lindsey Church St Andrew RegisterNumber 271 BurialDate 03 Jun 1862 Forename John Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname MAJOR Age 77 Abode Brigg Union Workhouse Notes FileNumber 18177
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9 Mar 2013 13:57 |
Yes that's the one I looked at, found it on freereg site I think he may be the son of Ursula Major christened on 25 Sept 1786 at St Mary's Newark.
Thank you for all your help
Wendy :-D
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alviegal
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9 Mar 2013 14:07 |
If you've been on freereg, you'll have seen the records for his children. eg
County Nottinghamshire Place Bulwell Church St Mary RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 20 Mar 1831 Forename William Sex - FatherForename John MotherForename Sarah FatherSurname MAJOR MotherSurname Abode FatherOccupation Fwk Notes FileNumber 15080
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9 Mar 2013 14:14 |
Hi ***alviegal***,
Yes I've got all the christenings for his children with Sarah at Bulwell but someone on another site says he had children with someone else at the same time but I'm not sure yet, but something went off with him and Sarah she put on the 1851 says as unmarried and the children did not put his name down on their marriages, maybe he used another name as well. Sarah died in 1855 in Bulwell.
Wendy
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9 Mar 2013 14:47 |
Wendy, I'm probably miles out here, but going by his occupation on William's baptism record (FWK), and by his death in the workhouse in 1862, have a look at these.
From http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/A11-FWK.htm
To anyone who has delved into their family tree, and whose ancestors come from the East Midlands, the initials FWK will have appeared on many census records. The letters stand for Framework Knitter, an occupation almost unique to the counties of Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire and Leicestershire. The legacy of the Framework Knitters, spanning some 250 years, is evident today in the Hosiery, Knitwear and Cut and Sew Trades of the East Midlands.
Now in the 1861 for the Workhouse, there is this man.
1861 Census transcription details for: Union Workhouse, Glanford Brigg, Wrawby, Brigg
National Archive Reference: RG number RG09 Piece: 2398 Folio: 73 Page: 21 Reg. District: Glanford Brigg Sub District: 1 Brigg Parish: Wrawby Enum. District: 11 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Union Workhouse, Glanford Brigg, Wrawby, Brigg County: Lincolnshire
100 EMPRINGHAM, George Head Married M 49 1812 Master Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire VIEW 100 EMPRINGHAM, Eliza Wife Married F 50 1811 Matron Kingston on Hull, Yorkshire
>>100 MALIP, John Pauper Widower M 79 1782 Stocking Widower ...Stone, Derbyshire
He is a stocking weaver not widower, from Illstone ? Derbyshire and I think the surname could possibly be Major/Majer. Have a look and see what you think.
This is him on ancestry.
1861 England Census about John Mahe Name: John Mahe Age: 79 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782 Relation: Pauper Gender: Male Where born: Illstone, Derbyshire, England
Liz
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9 Mar 2013 15:08 |
From http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/poorhouse.html
All paupers were supposed to approach the Relieving Officer of the district in which they resided if they were in need of relief - that relief could be outside the Union (Out relief) if they had a medical certificate from a medical officer of the Union, or if they had been entered in the Medical Officer's book. I suspect that, as there were only two relieving officers for the whole of the Stamford Union, the very first approach would have been to the overseer of the poor of the parish in which they resided, and he would have then contacted the relieving officer.
No-one could enter the workhouse without an "order", I've seen this called a "ticket" in settlement examinations, with the exception of vagrants (people travelling who "put up for the night" in the workhouse and had to perform some kind of work before leaving the next morning).
Once in the workhouse:
If their settlement was in one of the parishes within the Union [by Union I mean the group of parishes covered by a particular Poor Law Union - the same parishes incidentally as in the registration districts of the same name] their maintenance was paid for by the parish to which they belonged, in other words the parish in which their legal settlement was.
If their settlement was unknown, they would be sworn to their settlement [i.e. examined by a magistrate - settlement examination] and once this had been done the clerk of the Board of Guardians for the workhouse in which they were residing would write to the clerk of the Union in which their settlement was thought to be stating the particulars (I'm learning workhouse speak!!) of the case.
That Union would then investigate the case and if the pauper was "acknowledged" i.e. the pauper was accepted as one of theirs, they could either be removed to that Union or their maintenance/out relief would be paid by that Union.
If the abovesaid Union did not think the pauper was "one of theirs" they would usually ask for an order of removal for the pauper(s). This would then enable the case to come to court through an appeal against the order, and the case would be finally settled at Quarter Sessions (hence all the removal orders in the Quarter Sessions files).
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9 Mar 2013 15:21 |
Hi Liz,
Thank you, yes I will look into that one but I think he was born in Newark.
Wendy
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