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1891 census look up please

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Jane

Jane Report 8 Mar 2013 09:12

George William Paddock married Charlotte Tucker in 1906 Birmingham.
Robert Paddock married Rosina Tucker in 1907 Birmingham.

George and William are brothers (my family) What I would like to know is were Charlotte and Rosina sister. Hopefully they will be together on the 1891 census. Unfortunately I do not know anything about these two Tuckers.

Thanks for your help

Jane

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Mar 2013 09:47

!911 census shows
Charlotte Paddock b 1883 Birmingham
Rosina Paddock b 1888 St Martin's Birmingham

So a possibility in the 1891 census

1891 census transcription details for: 37, Smithfield Passage, Birmingham

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2383
Folio: 61
Page: 27
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: St Martin <<<<<<<<<
Parish: Birmingham
Enum. District: 18
Ecclesiastical District: St Martins
City/Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 37, Smithfield Passage, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
TUCKER, George Head Married M 35 1856 Travellers Porter Birmingham, Warwickshire
TUCKER, Sarah Wife Married F 35 1856 Birmingham, Warwickshire
TUCKER, Lizzie Daughter F 16 1875 French Polisher Birmingham, Warwickshire
TUCKER, Samuel Son M 14 1877 Cabinet Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire
TUCKER, George Son M 13 1878 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire
TUCKER, John Son M 12 1879 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire
TUCKER, Sarah Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire
TUCKER, Charlotte Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire<<<<<<<<
TUCKER, Ann Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire
TUCKER, Rosina Daughter F 3 1888 Birmingham, Warwickshire<<<<<<<<<<<<
TUCKER, Thomas Son M 0 (2M) 1891 Birmingham, Warwickshire

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Mar 2013 09:47

Just for our ref, here they are in 1911:



1911 England Census about Rosina Paddock
Name: Rosina Paddock
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 148 Bromsgrove, St Bham
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 18128
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Paddock 25
Rosina Paddock 23
Robert George Paddock 3
Ernest Harry Paddock 2
Rosina Annie Paddock 3/12


1911 England Census about Charlotte Paddock
Name: Charlotte Paddock
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 86 Morville St Ladywood Bham
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: Lady Woon
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 17993
Household Members:
Name Age
George William Paddock 27
Charlotte Paddock 28
Winnifred May Paddock 4
Beatrice Elsie Paddock 2
Maud Paddock 10/12

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Mar 2013 09:51

Strangely, here's another Birmingham family in 1911, with daughters Charlotte and Rosina of the same ages as above. And both daughters are listed as married:


1911 England Census about Rosina Tucker
Name: Rosina Tucker
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 178 Mark Lane
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Piece: 18133
Household Members:
Name Age
George Tucker 55
Sarah Tucker 55
Samuel Tucker 34
John Tucker 32
George Tucker 33
Thomas Tucker 20
William Tucker 16
Robert Tucker 13
Edward Tucker 11
Charlotte Tucker 28
Ann Tucker 27
Rosina Tucker 23
Mary Tucker 18
Sophia Tucker 10

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Mar 2013 09:51

1901 - Rosina shown as Rose
1901 census transcription details for: 17, Mark Lane, Birmingham

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2836
Folio: 185
Page: 30
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: St Martin
Parish: Birmingham
Enum. District: 44
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 17, Mark Lane, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
TUCKER, George Head Married M 46 1855 Travellers Porter Birmingham
TUCKER, Sarah Wife Married F 46 1855 Birmingham
TUCKER, Samuel Son Single M 24 1877 Cabinet Maker Birmingham
TUCKER, John Son Single M 21 1880 Labourer (Timber Yard) Birmingham
TUCKER, Charlotte Daughter Single F 18 1883 French PolisherBirmingham
TUCKER, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1884 French Polisher Birmingham
TUCKER, Rose Daughter F 13 1888 Birmingham
TUCKER, Thomas Son M 10 1891 Birmingham
TUCKER, Mary Daughter F 8 1893 Birmingham
TUCKER, William Son M 6 1895 Birmingham
TUCKER, Robert Son M 3 1898 Birmingham
TUCKER, Edward P Son M 1 1900 Birmingham
TUCKER, Sophia Daughter F 0 (1 MOS) 1901 Birmingham

Gai

Gai Report 8 Mar 2013 09:53

Could this be the family in 1901

Name: Charlotte Tucker
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Tucker
Mother's name: Sarah Tucker
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 164
Piece: 2836
Folio: 185
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
George Tucker 46
Sarah Tucker 46
Samuel Tucker 24
John Tucker 21
Charlotte Tucker 18
Annie Tucker 17
Rose Tucker 13
Thomas Tucker 10
Mary Tucker 8
William Tucker 6
Robert Tucker 3
Edward P Tucker 1
Sophia Tucker 1 Month

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Mar 2013 09:53

Stuart, that's the same family as above, where the two daughters are listed as married!

Jane

Jane Report 8 Mar 2013 09:55

Thank you very much for that information Argyllgran. So it does look like they were sisterrs.

How can I show that on my tree. I've tried before and couldnt do it but with all the changes is it possible now?

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Mar 2013 10:00

Has George Tucker got a little confused and completed the census including his 2 married daughters but still with the Tucker name??

1911 census transcription details for: 17 18 Mark Lane

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN18133 RG78PN1098 RD384 SD4 ED30 SN103
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: St Martin
Parish: Birmingham
Enum. District: 30
Address: 17 18 Mark Lane
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
TUCKER, George Head Married 37 years M 55 1856 Porter Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, Sarah Wife Married F 55 1856 None Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, Samuel Son Married M 34 1877 Cabinet Maker Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, John Son Married M 32 1879 Engine Driver Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, George Son Single M 33 1878 Service Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, Thomas Son Single M 20 1891 Clerk Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, William Son Single M 16 1895 Railway Coy Cart Boy Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, Robert Son Single M 13 1898 School Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, Edward Son Single M 11 1900 School Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, Charlotte Daughter Married4 years F 28 1883 Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, Ann Daughter Single F 27 1884 Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, Rosina Daughter Married4 years F 23 1888 Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, Mary Daughter Single F 18 1893 Jeweller Birmingham Bham England
TUCKER, Sophia Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Birmingham Bham England

Jane

Jane Report 8 Mar 2013 10:05

Gai and Stuart Thank you for your help too.

Help I seem to be gettting confused. All the above census seem to be relating to George and Sarah Tuckers family.

Where are the other family mentioned by Argyllgran.

Thank you all for your kind help

Jane

Jane

Jane Report 8 Mar 2013 10:11

Hi Stuart

George must have got a bit confused as both Rosina and Charlotte were definitely married in 1911.

Jane

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Mar 2013 10:13

I believe they are one and the same family. In 1911 the girls have each been written down with their husbands and families BUT also by their father

Here is Rosina as Paddock in the 1911 census
1911 census transcription details for: 1 48 Bromsgrove Street

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN18128 RG78PN1098 RD384 SD4 ED25 SN19
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: St Martin
Parish: Birmingham
Enum. District: 25
Address: 1 48 Bromsgrove Street
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
PADDOCK, Robert Head Married 4 years M 25 1886 Horse Keeper St Margarets Parish Bham
PADDOCK, Rosina Wife Married F 23 1888 St Martins Parish Bham
PADDOCK, Robert George Son M 3 1908 St Margarets Parish Bham
PADDOCK, Ernest Harry Son M 2 1909 St Margarets Parish Bham
PADDOCK, Rosina Annie Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 St Martins Parish Bham

Jane

Jane Report 8 Mar 2013 10:21

Thank you Argyllgran, stuart and Gai for all your help. I have to get ready for work now but I will check this when I get home.

All the best

Jane

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Mar 2013 12:09

It's not unknown for people to be listed twice at a census.
In my own tree, there's a child who is listed with her parents, but also listed with her grandparents. Presumably she was spending that night with her grandparents, but her parents didn't read the census instructions properly, and just listed her anyway.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Mar 2013 12:14

And Jane -
I don't know how you show that on your tree. I have that problem too. A brother and sister married a sister and brother. Also one person's aunt was also her mother-in-law. Also, two cousins marry.
I list them in both places on the tree, but add a note to listing One to see listing Two for further details of that person's direct tree.
It's very confusing!

Jane

Jane Report 8 Mar 2013 17:40

Thanks argyllgran. This has happened to me a couple of times and like you I added tthe parents to both brothers and and put a comment on to say that they were related.

All the best

Jane