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8 Mar 2013 09:12 |
George William Paddock married Charlotte Tucker in 1906 Birmingham. Robert Paddock married Rosina Tucker in 1907 Birmingham.
George and William are brothers (my family) What I would like to know is were Charlotte and Rosina sister. Hopefully they will be together on the 1891 census. Unfortunately I do not know anything about these two Tuckers.
Thanks for your help
Jane
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8 Mar 2013 09:47 |
!911 census shows Charlotte Paddock b 1883 Birmingham Rosina Paddock b 1888 St Martin's Birmingham
So a possibility in the 1891 census
1891 census transcription details for: 37, Smithfield Passage, Birmingham
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 2383 Folio: 61 Page: 27 Reg. District: Birmingham Sub District: St Martin <<<<<<<<< Parish: Birmingham Enum. District: 18 Ecclesiastical District: St Martins City/Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: 37, Smithfield Passage, Birmingham County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born TUCKER, George Head Married M 35 1856 Travellers Porter Birmingham, Warwickshire TUCKER, Sarah Wife Married F 35 1856 Birmingham, Warwickshire TUCKER, Lizzie Daughter F 16 1875 French Polisher Birmingham, Warwickshire TUCKER, Samuel Son M 14 1877 Cabinet Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire TUCKER, George Son M 13 1878 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire TUCKER, John Son M 12 1879 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire TUCKER, Sarah Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire TUCKER, Charlotte Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire<<<<<<<< TUCKER, Ann Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire TUCKER, Rosina Daughter F 3 1888 Birmingham, Warwickshire<<<<<<<<<<<< TUCKER, Thomas Son M 0 (2M) 1891 Birmingham, Warwickshire
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8 Mar 2013 09:47 |
Just for our ref, here they are in 1911:
1911 England Census about Rosina Paddock Name: Rosina Paddock Age in 1911: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Birmingham Civil parish: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 148 Bromsgrove, St Bham Marital Status: Married Registration district: Birmingham Registration District Number: 384 Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Piece: 18128 Household Members: Name Age Robert Paddock 25 Rosina Paddock 23 Robert George Paddock 3 Ernest Harry Paddock 2 Rosina Annie Paddock 3/12
1911 England Census about Charlotte Paddock Name: Charlotte Paddock Age in 1911: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 86 Morville St Ladywood Bham Marital Status: Married Registration district: Birmingham Registration District Number: 384 Sub-registration district: Lady Woon ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 17993 Household Members: Name Age George William Paddock 27 Charlotte Paddock 28 Winnifred May Paddock 4 Beatrice Elsie Paddock 2 Maud Paddock 10/12
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ArgyllGran
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8 Mar 2013 09:51 |
Strangely, here's another Birmingham family in 1911, with daughters Charlotte and Rosina of the same ages as above. And both daughters are listed as married:
1911 England Census about Rosina Tucker Name: Rosina Tucker Age in 1911: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Birmingham, England Civil parish: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 178 Mark Lane Marital Status: Married Registration district: Birmingham Registration District Number: 384 Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Piece: 18133 Household Members: Name Age George Tucker 55 Sarah Tucker 55 Samuel Tucker 34 John Tucker 32 George Tucker 33 Thomas Tucker 20 William Tucker 16 Robert Tucker 13 Edward Tucker 11 Charlotte Tucker 28 Ann Tucker 27 Rosina Tucker 23 Mary Tucker 18 Sophia Tucker 10
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8 Mar 2013 09:51 |
1901 - Rosina shown as Rose 1901 census transcription details for: 17, Mark Lane, Birmingham
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 2836 Folio: 185 Page: 30 Reg. District: Birmingham Sub District: St Martin Parish: Birmingham Enum. District: 44 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 17, Mark Lane, Birmingham County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born TUCKER, George Head Married M 46 1855 Travellers Porter Birmingham TUCKER, Sarah Wife Married F 46 1855 Birmingham TUCKER, Samuel Son Single M 24 1877 Cabinet Maker Birmingham TUCKER, John Son Single M 21 1880 Labourer (Timber Yard) Birmingham TUCKER, Charlotte Daughter Single F 18 1883 French PolisherBirmingham TUCKER, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1884 French Polisher Birmingham TUCKER, Rose Daughter F 13 1888 Birmingham TUCKER, Thomas Son M 10 1891 Birmingham TUCKER, Mary Daughter F 8 1893 Birmingham TUCKER, William Son M 6 1895 Birmingham TUCKER, Robert Son M 3 1898 Birmingham TUCKER, Edward P Son M 1 1900 Birmingham TUCKER, Sophia Daughter F 0 (1 MOS) 1901 Birmingham
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Gai
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8 Mar 2013 09:53 |
Could this be the family in 1901
Name: Charlotte Tucker Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Tucker Mother's name: Sarah Tucker Gender: Female Where born: Birmingham Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
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View image Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 44 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 164 Piece: 2836 Folio: 185 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age George Tucker 46 Sarah Tucker 46 Samuel Tucker 24 John Tucker 21 Charlotte Tucker 18 Annie Tucker 17 Rose Tucker 13 Thomas Tucker 10 Mary Tucker 8 William Tucker 6 Robert Tucker 3 Edward P Tucker 1 Sophia Tucker 1 Month
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ArgyllGran
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8 Mar 2013 09:53 |
Stuart, that's the same family as above, where the two daughters are listed as married!
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Jane
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8 Mar 2013 09:55 |
Thank you very much for that information Argyllgran. So it does look like they were sisterrs.
How can I show that on my tree. I've tried before and couldnt do it but with all the changes is it possible now?
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8 Mar 2013 10:00 |
Has George Tucker got a little confused and completed the census including his 2 married daughters but still with the Tucker name??
1911 census transcription details for: 17 18 Mark Lane
National Archive Reference: RG14PN18133 RG78PN1098 RD384 SD4 ED30 SN103 Reg. District: Birmingham Sub District: St Martin Parish: Birmingham Enum. District: 30 Address: 17 18 Mark Lane County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born TUCKER, George Head Married 37 years M 55 1856 Porter Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, Sarah Wife Married F 55 1856 None Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, Samuel Son Married M 34 1877 Cabinet Maker Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, John Son Married M 32 1879 Engine Driver Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, George Son Single M 33 1878 Service Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, Thomas Son Single M 20 1891 Clerk Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, William Son Single M 16 1895 Railway Coy Cart Boy Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, Robert Son Single M 13 1898 School Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, Edward Son Single M 11 1900 School Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, Charlotte Daughter Married4 years F 28 1883 Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, Ann Daughter Single F 27 1884 Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, Rosina Daughter Married4 years F 23 1888 Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, Mary Daughter Single F 18 1893 Jeweller Birmingham Bham England TUCKER, Sophia Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Birmingham Bham England
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8 Mar 2013 10:05 |
Gai and Stuart Thank you for your help too.
Help I seem to be gettting confused. All the above census seem to be relating to George and Sarah Tuckers family.
Where are the other family mentioned by Argyllgran.
Thank you all for your kind help
Jane
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Jane
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8 Mar 2013 10:11 |
Hi Stuart
George must have got a bit confused as both Rosina and Charlotte were definitely married in 1911.
Jane
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8 Mar 2013 10:13 |
I believe they are one and the same family. In 1911 the girls have each been written down with their husbands and families BUT also by their father
Here is Rosina as Paddock in the 1911 census 1911 census transcription details for: 1 48 Bromsgrove Street
National Archive Reference: RG14PN18128 RG78PN1098 RD384 SD4 ED25 SN19 Reg. District: Birmingham Sub District: St Martin Parish: Birmingham Enum. District: 25 Address: 1 48 Bromsgrove Street County: Warwickshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born PADDOCK, Robert Head Married 4 years M 25 1886 Horse Keeper St Margarets Parish Bham PADDOCK, Rosina Wife Married F 23 1888 St Martins Parish Bham PADDOCK, Robert George Son M 3 1908 St Margarets Parish Bham PADDOCK, Ernest Harry Son M 2 1909 St Margarets Parish Bham PADDOCK, Rosina Annie Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 St Martins Parish Bham
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8 Mar 2013 10:21 |
Thank you Argyllgran, stuart and Gai for all your help. I have to get ready for work now but I will check this when I get home.
All the best
Jane
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ArgyllGran
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8 Mar 2013 12:09 |
It's not unknown for people to be listed twice at a census. In my own tree, there's a child who is listed with her parents, but also listed with her grandparents. Presumably she was spending that night with her grandparents, but her parents didn't read the census instructions properly, and just listed her anyway.
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8 Mar 2013 12:14 |
And Jane - I don't know how you show that on your tree. I have that problem too. A brother and sister married a sister and brother. Also one person's aunt was also her mother-in-law. Also, two cousins marry. I list them in both places on the tree, but add a note to listing One to see listing Two for further details of that person's direct tree. It's very confusing!
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8 Mar 2013 17:40 |
Thanks argyllgran. This has happened to me a couple of times and like you I added tthe parents to both brothers and and put a comment on to say that they were related.
All the best
Jane
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