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vanessa
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4 Mar 2013 15:32 |
i have made a tree of myself, mother, father, sister. and paternal grandparents. but i have no more knowledge than that and i have no relatives i am in contact with to ask. can anyone advise me what i can do please?
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Jonesey
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4 Mar 2013 15:34 |
Welcome to the message boards.
You need then to obtain copies of birth and marriage certificates to make further progress.
E.G. Your parents birth certificates will give you both their parents names. Their parents marriage certificates will give you the name of their father, their age at marriage ect.
There are some very useful tips threads for beginners on the message boards such as:
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1191812
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1318489
Click on and read them, they should help you.
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Dea
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4 Mar 2013 16:06 |
Hi Vanessa,
We have to be careful not to put the details of any 'living' people on here so firstly, are your parents and maternal grandparents still alive?
If not, do you want to give us the details and we can help you make a start.
If they are, do you want to send me the details by private message (just click on my name and type the message in the box and send it to me). - I could then take a look for you.
Dea x
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trailertrash
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4 Mar 2013 16:07 |
Hi Vanessa,
once you get back further than 1911 you can make use of the census returns which have a wealth of information. You do not say if your grandparents are still living, or if you know when and where they married. Be aware of personal privacy for anyone still living, so do not post personal details, ie date of birth, children etc.
If you want any further help just ask, someone will help you
Lesley
sorry Dea, have duplicated some of your post, didn't see it before I posted...
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ErikaH
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4 Mar 2013 16:09 |
It is not necessary to have anyone to ask......
You can research your family yourself using the facts you are sure of as a basis.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk
........is a good place to start.
When I started doing FH in 2001, I hadn't had any contact with any relatives since 1956.......I've got back to the late 1700's using only the internet
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trailertrash
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4 Mar 2013 16:21 |
Nice to be able to ask for advice though rather than for someone to do it for you. There is so much to learn especially in the beginning.. I hadn't heard of familysearch.org and many other sites,until some kind soul let me know...
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ErikaH
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4 Mar 2013 17:05 |
I see, Vanessa, that you have your mother in your GR tree with a birth year of 1932.
There is no birth for her name on freebmd in that year............and it would have meant that she was barely 16 when she married.
The best thing for you to do is to get your parents' marriage cert............you'll find out her correct age, and her father's name, which will mean you can look for her birth and work from there.
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ErikaH
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4 Mar 2013 17:06 |
To give you kick-start............on your paternal side
1911 census
Person: GREEN, Hedley Address: Carloggas St Austell Cornwall GREEN, James Head Married15 years M 39 1872 Waggoner On Farm Cornwall St Austell Hallaze VIEW GREEN, Elizabeth Wife F 36 1875 Cornwall St Austell Wadebridge VIEW GREEN, Clara Daughter F 10 1901 School Cornwall St Austell VIEW *******GREEN, Hedley Son M 19 1892 School Cornwall Penwithick St Austell VIEW BUNKER, James Boarder M 32 1879 Clay Labourer Makinnow VIEW BRICE, William Boarder M 28 1883 Clay Labourer Makinnow
*******Age is wrong........his birth was registered in 1902..........second forename James
Found on FMP.....which is not one of the free sites
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alviegal
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4 Mar 2013 17:16 |
from http://v1.cornwall-opc-database.org/personsearchdb.php
More information about record 954064 in the Baptisms database Day Month 15-Aug Year 1900 Parish Or Reg District Treverbyn Forename Clara Surname GREEN Sex dau Father Forename James Mother Forename Bessie Residence Stents Father Rank Profession driver
1901 census transcription details for: Penwithick Stents, St Austell Rural, Penwithick Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 2211 Folio: 160 Page: 25 Reg. District: St Austell Sub District: St Austell Parish: St Austell Rural Enum. District: 16 Ecclesiastical District: Treverbyn St Peter City/Municipal Borough: Address: Penwithick Stents, St Austell Rural, Penwithick County: Cornwall Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born GREEN, James Head Married M 28 1873 Horse Driver St Austell, Cornwall GREEN, Bessie Wife Married F 27 1874 Bodmin, Cornwall GREEN, Clara Daughter Single F 0 (10 MOS) 1901 St Austell, Cornwall
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alviegal
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4 Mar 2013 17:19 |
?? Marriages - Details of record ID 742003: Parish or Registration District: Bodmin Date: 29-Jun 1895 GROOM: James GREEN Groom's age: 23 Groom's condition: bachelor Groom's rank/profession: Labourer Groom's residence: Treverbyn >>Father: Thomas Father's rank/profession: Labourer BRIDE: Bessie SLEEMAN Bride's age: 21 Bride's condition: spinster Bride's rank/profession: Bride's residence: Crockwell St, Bodmin >>Father: James Father's rank/profession: Labourer Banns(B) or Licence(L): B Groom Signed(S) or Marked(M): S Bride Signed(S) or Marked(M): S Witness 1: James Sleeman Witness 2: Emma Philips
From http://www.cornwall-opc.org/index.htm
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vanessa
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6 Mar 2013 10:27 |
hi firstly let me thank you for replying. i am not very genned up on computers so am finding it hard. i dont understand the credit system and i have used some and still no wiser ha ha. my parents are both deceased as are both sides of grandparents. my fathers brother is also. but i know nothing at all about my maternal side as she left my dad when i was small. i have a sister but the last i knew was she was living in rieti italy back in 1986 when my dad died. so i do not know if she is still alive. my dads details are as follows, cecil eric green (had a brother called trevor aubrey, deceased, unsure of born or death dates) born 1925 died 1986, married faith sanders unsure when but in the 50's. paternal grandfather. hedley james green born 1900 died 1971. paternal grandmother irene smith born around 1900 and died approx 1973/74. my paternal side are all from st.austell cornwall u.k and my maternal side were from york u.k my mother had a brother that i think was called stephen/steven and i think she had a sister. my own sister is ann michelle green unsure if she married. was born in 1951 also in cornwall, and as i said she was last known to be in italy where i presume she still is as she moved there in the 70's. sorry but this is all the information i have x
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Jonesey
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6 Mar 2013 10:38 |
Your parents marriage
Marriages Mar 1948 Green Cecil E Sanders St. Austell 7a 347 Sanders Faith Green St. Austell 7a 347
A copy of the certificate will hopefully give you your mother's fathers name and occupation.
Most likely your mothers birth registration (A bit older than you thought):
Name: Faith Sanders Mother's Maiden Surname: Shaw Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1929 Registration district: York Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume Number: 9d Page Number: 55
Your maternal grandparents marriage??
Marriages Dec 1925 Sanders Samuel Shaw York 9d 114 Shaw Rose Sanders York 9d 114
Just possibilities for Rose Shaw:
Her birth???: Births Dec 1891 Shaw Margaret Rose York 9d 19
1911???: Name: Rose Shaw Age in 1911: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: York, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Dringhouses Without and Middlethorpe Without County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding Country: England Street Address: 10 Northfield Terrace Dringhouses York Marital Status: Single Occupation: Chocolate Packer Registration district: York Registration District Number: 517 Sub-registration district: Bishopthorpe ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 28449 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Lawrence Shaw 50 born York Theresa Shaw 49 born Cowick, Yorkshire Charles Shaw 22 Rose Shaw 19 Agnes Shaw 16 Mary Shaw 13 John Shaw 9 Thomas Lawrence Shaw 7
Her death???: Name: Rose Sanders Birth Date: abt 1891 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954 Age at Death: 63 Registration district: York Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 2d Page: 960
Your maternal uncle's birth registration???
Name: Stevon Sanders Mother's Maiden Surname: Shaw Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1932 Registration district: Gt Ouseburn Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume Number: 9a Page Number: 115
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PricklyHolly
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6 Mar 2013 11:03 |
England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 about Trevor A Green Name: Trevor A Green Mother's Maiden Surname: Smith Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1927 Registration district: St Austell Inferred County: Somerset Volume Number: 5c Page Number: 131
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Trevor A Green Name: Trevor A Green Spouse Name: Clarice H Polkinghorne Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1946 Registration district: St Austell Inferred County: Cornwall Volume Number: 5c Page Number: 171
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PricklyHolly
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6 Mar 2013 11:20 |
Marriages Sep 1924 (>99%) GREEN Hedley J Smith St.Austell 5c 235 Smith Irene Green St.Austell 5c 235
Possibly........
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Irene Smith Name: Irene Smith Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1902 Registration district: St Austell Inferred County: Cornwall Volume: 5c Page: 83
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Irene Green Name: Irene Green Birth Date: 28 Feb 1902 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1975 Age at Death: 73 Registration district: Bodmin Inferred County: Cornwall Volume: 21 Page: 0044
Household transcription 1911 census Person: SMITH, Irene Address: New Street Bugle Near St Austell Cornwall
SMITH, John Head Married21 years M 40 1871 Clay Labourer Lincoln Spalding VIEW SMITH, Annie Wife Married21 years F 40 1871 Cornwall Roche VIEW SMITH, Michael Son M 12 1899 School Cornwall Roche VIEW SMITH, Irene Daughter F 9 1902 School Cornwall St Austell VIEW SMITH, Olive Daughter F 2 1909 Cornwall Lanivet VIEW CREBA, William Boarder Single M 29 1882 Carman Cornwall Tregonissey VIEW TAYLOR, John Boarder Single M 22 1889 Clay Labourer Sussex Brighton VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 13770 Reference: RG14PN13770 RG78PN814 RD295 SD2 ED17 SN10 Registration District: St Austell Sub District: St Austell Enumeration District: 17 Parish: St Austell Rural Address: New Street Bugle Near St Austell Cornwall County: Cornwall (9 children born, 4 living, 5 had died)
1901 England Census about Mike Smith Name: Mike Smith Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Smith Mother's name: Annie Smith Gender: Male Where born: Roche, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Roche Ecclesiastical parish: Roche Town: Hallen County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: St Austell Sub-registration district: St Austell ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 26 Piece: 2212 Folio: 83 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age John Smith 31 Annie Smith 30 May Smith 4 Mike Smith 2 Johnny Smith 8 Months Harry Woon 20 (Brother)
?? Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%) Smith John James Plympton 5b 337 Woon Annie Plympton 5b 337
Annie's Brother Harry Woon appears as James H Woon in the 1891 census........
Births Jun 1881 (>99%) WOON James Henry St. Austell 5c 124
Parents marriage.....
Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%) Knight Sabina St Austell 5c 178 WOON Henry St Austell 5c 178
Sabina Knight is a servant for Henry Woon in the 1871 census.........3 children have been transcribed with the surname "Knight". Probably because Sabina and Henry didn't marry until 1877. The three children appear with the surname of "Woon" in the 1881 census and their births were actually registered with the surname of "Woon"
1871 England Census about Henry Woon Name: Henry Woon Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Roche, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Roche Town: Carbis Common County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: St Austell Sub-registration district: St Austell ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Household schedule number: 38 Piece: 2267 Folio: 9 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Henry Woon 56 (Unmarried) Sibbna Knight 31 (Servant) Unmarried Mary W Knight 6 Bessy Knight 3 Amy Knight 6 Months >>>>>Anny on the image.
1881 England Census about Sabina Woon Name: Sabina Woon Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Henry Woon Gender: Female Where born: St Austell, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Roche County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Woon Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: St Austell Sub-registration district: St Austell ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2303 Folio: 78 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Henry Woon 63 Sabina Woon 42 Mary Woon 16 Bessie Woon 14 Annie Woon 10 Matilda Woon 4 Fanny Mitchell 37 (Boarder)
Births Mar 1865 (>99%) Woon Mary Woon St. Austell 5c 141
Births Sep 1867 (>99%) Woon Bessie St. Austell 5c 135
Births Dec 1870 (>99%) WOON Annie St. Austell 5c 123
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Jonesey
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6 Mar 2013 11:38 |
I just wonder could this be your mother remarrying? The birth date given at death would fit the birth registration in York
Name: Faith Green Spouse Surname: William M Tamblin Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1976 Registration district: St Austell Inferred County: Cornwall Volume Number: 21 Page Number: 1402
Name: Faith Tamblin Birth Date: 19 Nov 1928 Date of Registration: May 2000 Age at Death: 71 Registration district: Bodmin Inferred County: Cornwall Register Number: 34B District and Subdistrict: 3541 Entry number: 221
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