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27 Feb 2013 23:24 |
Hi, I'm looking for anyone who has Joseph Cartwright in their tree, for more info on him. He was born 1887, around Birmingham, moved to Nottingham with parents Arthur and Fanny, and had siblings Albert and Alice. All the men worked as leather finishers. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Neil Gribby
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27 Feb 2013 23:35 |
Try searching trees using the tabs above
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28 Feb 2013 00:01 |
1911 England Census about Joseph Thomas Cartwright Name: Joseph Thomas Cartwright Age in 1911: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Birmingham Civil parish: West Bridgford County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: 153 Trent Boulevard W B Notts Marital Status: Single Occupation: Leather Finisher Registration district: Basford Registration District Number: 429 Sub-registration district: Carlton ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Piece: 20470 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Cartwright 60 Fanny Cartwright 60 Joseph Thomas Cartwright 34 Albert Cartwright 30 Alice Cartwright 22
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28 Feb 2013 00:22 |
1891 England Census about Arthur Cartwright Name: Arthur Cartwright Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Fanny Cartwright Gender: Male Where born: Packington, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
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28 Feb 2013 03:04 |
Welcome to the boards Neil
I think you meant 1877
This could be his birth
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Joseph Thomas Cartwright Name: Joseph Thomas Cartwright Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1876 Registration district: Aston Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 301 (click to see others on page)
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28 Feb 2013 04:14 |
Thanks to all the replies, and so quickly, I'm impressed. Yes, I made a typo, it should be 1877 for his date of birth. Maybe I should have been a bit more specific too. All the info you have each sent, I do have. What I'm really looking for is getting more current. Did he go on to marry, if so to whom? Did they have children etc? I'm trying to get as up to date as possible, so that maybe I can make contact with any of his living relatives. I have searched trees, and sent messages to the persons linked, but so far absolutely no replies, so I'm at a dead end, so to speak. Once again, thanks everybody, it's appreciated. Neil Gribby
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28 Feb 2013 04:59 |
Looks like his death
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Joseph T Cartwright Name: Joseph T Cartwright Birth Date: abt 1877 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1951 Age at Death: 74 Registration district: Coalville Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 3a Page: 658 England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Joseph Thomas Cartwright Name: Joseph Thomas Cartwright Probate Date: 25 Apr 1951 Death Date: 2 Feb 1951 Death Place: Leicestershire, England Registry: Nottinghamshire, England Died 2nd feb 1951 administration (with will) Nottingham 25th April to Alice Cartwright spinster £1250 15s 7d
So it does not look like he married
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28 Feb 2013 05:11 |
His sister's Alice's death
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Alice Cartwright Name: Alice Cartwright Birth Date: abt 1889 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1958 Age at Death: 69 Registration district: Coalville Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 3a Page: 414 England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Alice Cartwright Name: Alice Cartwright Probate Date: 23 Jan 1959 Death Date: 26 May 1958 Death Place: Leicestershire, England Registry: Nottinghamshire, England Spinster died 26th May 1958 Admistration Nottingham to Arthur Elwyn Cartwright relief signalman effects £1051 13 5d
Think that was meant to be Edwin not Elwyn he died the same year
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Arthur E Cartwright Name: Arthur E Cartwright Birth Date: abt 1874 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1958 Age at Death: 84 Registration district: Basford Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 3c Page: 29 England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Arthur Edwin Cartwright Name: Arthur Edwin Cartwright Probate Date: 20 Jan 1959 Death Date: 17 Nov 1958 Death Place: Nottinghamshire, England Registry: Nottinghamshire, England To Emma Gertrude Cartwright widow £1696 3s 7d
who died
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Emma Gertrude Cartwright Name: Emma Gertrude Cartwright Birth Date: 29 Jun 1879 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1973 Age at Death: 93 Registration district: Basford Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 3c Page: 106
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28 Feb 2013 06:17 |
To find out if anyone on GR has him in their tree ............ you have to Search Trees
You are very unlikely to get any contacts by them wandering the Boards. That rarely happens!
Go to Search at the top right
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Send a message to anyone whose tree shows they have him in it.
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28 Feb 2013 06:34 |
Sylvia
Neil has sent messages but had no replies.
It does'nt look like Arthur and Emma had children and if Joseph and Alice did not marry unlikely to be any decendants there either
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28 Feb 2013 07:31 |
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28 Feb 2013 08:23 |
Have you researched cousins who might have living descendants, Neil?
HIs father Arthur had several siblings, and Arthur's brother Wellington had children:
The 1871 Census is provided in association with: 1871 England Census about Arthur Cartwright Name: Arthur Cartwright Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Packington Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St David Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 77 Piece: 3104 Folio: 68 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Cartwright 48 Elizabeth Cartwright 47 James Cartwright 25 Arthur Cartwright 20 Edwin Cartwright 18 Wellington Cartwright 15 Selina Cartwright 12 Elizabeth Cartwright 10 Joseph Cartwright 7 George Cartwright 9 Months
1911 England Census about Wellington Herbert Carturight Name: Wellington Herbert Carturight [Wellington Herbert Cartwright] Age in 1911: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Leicestershire, England Civil parish: West Bridgford County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: 10 Bridge Grove Marital Status: Married Occupation: Leather Dresser Registration district: Basford Registration District Number: 429 Sub-registration district: Carlton ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 20477 Household Members: Name Age Wellington Herbert Carturight 56 Mary Jane Carturight 57 Leonard Percy Carturight 21 Wellington Herbert Carturight 19 Claretta Carturight 28
PS: Wellington's daughter Claretta didn't marry; died 1963 and left her effects to brother Leonard Percy Cartwright. I don't see a marriage for Leonard Percy. I haven't investigated Wellington Herbert Jr.
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Daisy Claretta Cartwright Name: Daisy Claretta Cartwright Probate Date: 25 Apr 1963 Death Date: 24 Feb 1963 Death Place: Nottinghamshire, England Registry: Nottinghamshire, England
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28 Feb 2013 16:49 |
Many, many thanks to everyone. From the info you have supplied, it would certainly seem that Joseph did not marry, and so his direct line stops right there, which is what I was interested in. To fill in the gaps for you - he was my biological grand father. Him and my grand-mother had a baby girl (my mother), but never married, and each went their separate ways. Joseph apparently did the right thing though, and supported my grandmother until she did eventually marry the man I knew as my grandad. Thanks again everybody, very helpful. Regards, Neil
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28 Feb 2013 17:14 |
Thank you for your pm Neil
So he did have one child at least....maybe there were others?? but unless he mentioned them in his will (which he may have of course) it would be vertually impossible to trace
This thread maybe of use should you wish to go down that route
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1235425
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